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GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

Scottie Smit

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Scottie Smit » Fri, 14 May 1999 04:00:00

I have this weird feeling that GPL v1.1 will become GPL 2.0 complete with a
$49 price tag. Current users will probably receive a $10 to $20 rebate(just
wishful thinking).

No way it takes 8 months to tweak and correct the few bugs that exist in the
sim. Face it guys and gals this aint gone be no "patch", this will be a
updated version of the sim. Do you really think that Papy would add FF and
such for free?

I hope that I'm wrong(sure as hell want be the first time and certainly want
be the last).

GPL is without a doubt the best sim ever created and if Papy makes it even
better it would definitely be worth another 25 to 50 bucks. Whether  its a
"patch" or a new version I just wish they'd get the sucker out the door.

Scottie

Jeff Vince

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Jeff Vince » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00


>On Thu, 13 May 1999 23:11:49 -0500,


>>No way it takes 8 months to tweak and correct the few bugs that exist in the
>>sim.

>Maybe they were doing other things, like creating Nascar3
>from scratch.

   Kind of like when it took them 8 months to patch the really
annoying setup bug (and not much else) in ICR2?  While they were
creating NASCAR2?  Case closed...  :)

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Schlom

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Schlom » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00

Maybe after N3 and whatever is after that (Cart2000 maybe?).  Then we might see
a GPL2.

Chris

Jo

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Jo » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00


>I have this weird feeling that GPL v1.1 will become GPL 2.0 complete with a
>$49 price tag. Current users will probably receive a $10 to $20 rebate(just
>wishful thinking).

Not unless it has a lot more than we've heard about - say new tracks
or something. Not that it isn't an impressive sounding patch, it is,
but they can't expect people to shell out again for multiplayer fixes
and FF.

Joe

Rober

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Rober » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00

"but they can't expect people to shell out again for multiplayer fixes
and FF"

I would...and NT / Linux support, and warm tires at the start, and the
ability to kick off unbehaving online racers, and no offline suicidal "a la
Surtees at Monza" behavior of the AI's.

Nonetheless, in its present form, the greatest sim ever made.

Robert
Hull, Qubec

=:-D

Bruce Kennewel

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00

What "bugs"?

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>No way it takes 8 months to tweak and correct the few bugs that exist in
the
>sim.

Christer Andersso

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Christer Andersso » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00

Interesting remark... Isn't he saying that sim racing will never exist
as a sport :o)? I agree there is no fear of loosing your life, but
there's the fear of making a fool of yourself and fear of loosing the
rear. Is that enough fear to make it a sport :o)?

/Christer


> "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

--
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-41236/ (Read all about the "Global online
racing"-proposal under "For developers". Read it a couple of times,
cause noone has understood it the first time they've read it yet :o)).
Chris Schlette

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Chris Schlette » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00

I dunno, don't think so.  There are plenty of people on the NROS and VROC
that make fools of themselves.....and making a fool of themselves doesn't
stop them dead cold like buying the farm in a flame wreckage of a racecar.
:)


> Interesting remark... Isn't he saying that sim racing will never exist
> as a sport :o)? I agree there is no fear of loosing your life, but
> there's the fear of making a fool of yourself and fear of loosing the
> rear. Is that enough fear to make it a sport :o)?

> /Christer


> > "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> > nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> > a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Tero Turtiain

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Tero Turtiain » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00


>no offline suicidal "a la Surtees at Monza" behavior of the AI's.

Oh... Is this a known persisting feature? Surtees has hit two times the back
of my car when braking for the Parabolica, is this happening to the others
too?
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Ronald Stoe

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Ronald Stoe » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00


> "but they can't expect people to shell out again for multiplayer fixes
> and FF"

> I would...and NT / Linux support, and warm tires at the start, and the
> ability to kick off unbehaving online racers, and no offline suicidal "a la
> Surtees at Monza" behavior of the AI's.

Yepp, after the announcement of FF for the patch I'm waiting for Randy to
announce a Linux server, too. Call me VERY optimistic. ;^)

l8er
ronny

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Andrew MacPhers

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00

I'm completely puzzled about the constant talk about 1.1. Just what earth-shattering
changes are going to take place?

FFB would be nice.
D3D support would be great.
A few more choices for newbies would be nice.
Improved net code would be nice (but of debatable use given the state of the Net these
days).

But nothing's going to fundamentally change what's already a great racing experience. I
think what I'm saying is that if people aren't enjoying themselves already, nothing in the
patch is likely to help... and if people are enjoying it already, what's to complain about?

Andrew McP

Toni Lassi

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Toni Lassi » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00

You betcha!

Randy Cassid

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Randy Cassid » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00



You're VERY optimistic.

:-) Couldn't resist.

Randy

Jack Ramb

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Jack Ramb » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00

More choices for newbies (and pros)? Take a look at GPaL!
(www.RaceLive.com/GPaL)

More choices *and* new ways to enjoy the "what's already a great racing
experience."

Jack Rambo

www.RaceLive.com/GPaL

Adam

GPL 1.1 or 2.0?

by Adam » Sat, 15 May 1999 04:00:00

So ballpark estimate on the patch date Randy?




> > Yepp, after the announcement of FF for the patch I'm waiting for
> Randy to
> > announce a Linux server, too. Call me VERY optimistic. ;^)

> You're VERY optimistic.

> :-) Couldn't resist.

> Randy


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