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EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

Shaun Robinso

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by Shaun Robinso » Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Come on, if anyone things that Crammond can beat this there on ***.
The graphics shot GP3 to shit, and if the physics are as good or better
than CPR I'm sold. GP3; all cars use the same model; what the hell is a
virtual***pit? if that's CPR's its crap.
EA F1 2000; look at the screen shots (car models); -appear- to be a GPL
equivalent 3D***pit.
Initially i was considering buying GP3 just for the 'current' wait wait,
its old...
I'm an antiEAist, i hate revoltion, SBK was ***(well semicrap, it
wasn't really made by EA though), and NforS is nothing, SCGT is mega-
megamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamega
crapy game, i'm sorry i'm a sim person. But this may be a half decent
game.
Jeffrey Haa

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by Jeffrey Haa » Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:00:00



Let's try that again Shaun.  "thinks" and "they're" might help the
above sentence.  Crack kills.

Surely this is a troll.

Shaun Robinso

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by Shaun Robinso » Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Damn it, it was late at night and i was tired.



> >Come on, if anyone things that Crammond can beat this there on ***.

> Let's try that again Shaun.  "thinks" and "they're" might help the
> above sentence.  Crack kills.

> Surely this is a troll.

GraDe

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by GraDe » Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Come on, anyone who can post this is on ***!

megamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamega
ymenar

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by ymenar » Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:00:00


<yawn>

Is this newsgroup turning into a troll fest of people who think the name of
this NG is : comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.arcade.racing ???

Shaun, graphics don't mean a GOOD quality title.  Graphics don't create
intense and immerse gameplay options like GP2 had and GP3 will have.
Graphics don't create the sensation of really racing a F1 car to it's limit,
it only increase it a little IF and the IF is important here... IF you have
a quality game engine that models accurately a F1 car.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Simon Mallet

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by Simon Mallet » Thu, 16 Dec 1999 04:00:00

get real man.....the screenshots of gp3 are only in software mode...just
wait untill we see the 3d accelerated screenshots.....gp1 and gp2 were the
best f1 sims you could buy...and gp3 will be the same.
GP3 will be the best F1 sim
GP500 is the best bike sim
GPL is the best racing sim....(if u like old cars.)


megamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamegamega

Leaky_Valv

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by Leaky_Valv » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Well, if not it's ugly enough to be one!


> Surely this is a troll.

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Brad

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by Brad » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Shaun, great eye candy does not = great game.GP2 in 2D IS still a great
game.
GPL in 2D is great, just better still in 3D. Nascar Revolution is great eye
candy, but it aint a patch on Nascar of any vintage - game wise. A shiny
heap of junk is still a heap of junk.
DjFI

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by DjFI » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Actualy.. some times graphics does mean alot.  Lots of people out there do
little research on games and since they only got the box to look at, and the
game info (as provided by the makers) games can easily sell casuse of graphics.
And I've never seen an arcade game with tyre temp indicators and driving aids
available.  There are alot of features, told and seen in the pics, that give it
the show that it isn't arcadeish.  You never know what It'll turn out to be in
the end, but of what I've seen and heard, it doesn't seam Arcade to me.  This
could possiably be released like SBK was, with Action (arcade) and Simulation
options.  And if that happened I'd pick it up with little fuss.  Someone doesn't
just go for a game with expensive rights (FIA) and put out an arcade game.  I've
never heard of it.

DjFIL



> > Come on, if anyone things that Crammond can beat this there on ***.

> <yawn>

> Is this newsgroup turning into a troll fest of people who think the name of
> this NG is : comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.arcade.racing ???

> Shaun, graphics don't mean a GOOD quality title.  Graphics don't create
> intense and immerse gameplay options like GP2 had and GP3 will have.
> Graphics don't create the sensation of really racing a F1 car to it's limit,
> it only increase it a little IF and the IF is important here... IF you have
> a quality game engine that models accurately a F1 car.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...

> "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
> how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

DjFI

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by DjFI » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

oops.  I better fix this up ASAP.  In last 2 lines what I ment is following.

A company won't go out and buy some expensive rights, like F1, and than waste it on
an arcadish game.  (note: OF1R doesn't count, it was a total flop in my opinion.).

hope that clear's up future questions.
DjFIL


> Actualy.. some times graphics does mean alot.  Lots of people out there do
> little research on games and since they only got the box to look at, and the
> game info (as provided by the makers) games can easily sell casuse of graphics.
> And I've never seen an arcade game with tyre temp indicators and driving aids
> available.  There are alot of features, told and seen in the pics, that give it
> the show that it isn't arcadeish.  You never know what It'll turn out to be in
> the end, but of what I've seen and heard, it doesn't seam Arcade to me.  This
> could possiably be released like SBK was, with Action (arcade) and Simulation
> options.  And if that happened I'd pick it up with little fuss.  Someone doesn't
> just go for a game with expensive rights (FIA) and put out an arcade game.  I've
> never heard of it.

> DjFIL



> > > Come on, if anyone things that Crammond can beat this there on ***.

> > <yawn>

> > Is this newsgroup turning into a troll fest of people who think the name of
> > this NG is : comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.arcade.racing ???

> > Shaun, graphics don't mean a GOOD quality title.  Graphics don't create
> > intense and immerse gameplay options like GP2 had and GP3 will have.
> > Graphics don't create the sensation of really racing a F1 car to it's limit,
> > it only increase it a little IF and the IF is important here... IF you have
> > a quality game engine that models accurately a F1 car.

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- May the Downforce be with you...

> > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
> > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Stif

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by Stif » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Two words "Nascar Revolution"........................

> oops.  I better fix this up ASAP.  In last 2 lines what I ment is
following.

> A company won't go out and buy some expensive rights, like F1, and than
waste it on
> an arcadish game.  (note: OF1R doesn't count, it was a total flop in my
opinion.).

> hope that clear's up future questions.
> DjFIL


> > Actualy.. some times graphics does mean alot.  Lots of people out there
do
> > little research on games and since they only got the box to look at, and
the
> > game info (as provided by the makers) games can easily sell casuse of
graphics.
> > And I've never seen an arcade game with tyre temp indicators and driving
aids
> > available.  There are alot of features, told and seen in the pics, that
give it
> > the show that it isn't arcadeish.  You never know what It'll turn out to
be in
> > the end, but of what I've seen and heard, it doesn't seam Arcade to me.
This
> > could possiably be released like SBK was, with Action (arcade) and
Simulation
> > options.  And if that happened I'd pick it up with little fuss.  Someone
doesn't
> > just go for a game with expensive rights (FIA) and put out an arcade
game.  I've
> > never heard of it.

> > DjFIL



> > > > Come on, if anyone things that Crammond can beat this there on
***.

> > > <yawn>

> > > Is this newsgroup turning into a troll fest of people who think the
name of
> > > this NG is : comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.arcade.racing ???

> > > Shaun, graphics don't mean a GOOD quality title.  Graphics don't
create
> > > intense and immerse gameplay options like GP2 had and GP3 will have.
> > > Graphics don't create the sensation of really racing a F1 car to it's
limit,
> > > it only increase it a little IF and the IF is important here... IF you
have
> > > a quality game engine that models accurately a F1 car.

> > > --
> > > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > > -- May the Downforce be with you...

> > > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
realise
> > > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

DjFI

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by DjFI » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Go on.  You do have something intelligent to add to that, right?

If were gonna use Nascar Revolution against EA F1, why not use SOS aginst
Microprose's GP3?  Thing is we can't do that.  EA is a huge crew, not just 1 guy
programing every single game.  Same with Microprose, Crammond didn't make SOS,
so why use that aginst him?  You see where this is going.

DjFIL


> Two words "Nascar Revolution"........................

> > oops.  I better fix this up ASAP.  In last 2 lines what I ment is
> following.

> > A company won't go out and buy some expensive rights, like F1, and than
> waste it on
> > an arcadish game.  (note: OF1R doesn't count, it was a total flop in my
> opinion.).

> > hope that clear's up future questions.
> > DjFIL


> > > Actualy.. some times graphics does mean alot.  Lots of people out there
> do
> > > little research on games and since they only got the box to look at, and
> the
> > > game info (as provided by the makers) games can easily sell casuse of
> graphics.
> > > And I've never seen an arcade game with tyre temp indicators and driving
> aids
> > > available.  There are alot of features, told and seen in the pics, that
> give it
> > > the show that it isn't arcadeish.  You never know what It'll turn out to
> be in
> > > the end, but of what I've seen and heard, it doesn't seam Arcade to me.
> This
> > > could possiably be released like SBK was, with Action (arcade) and
> Simulation
> > > options.  And if that happened I'd pick it up with little fuss.  Someone
> doesn't
> > > just go for a game with expensive rights (FIA) and put out an arcade
> game.  I've
> > > never heard of it.

> > > DjFIL



> > > > > Come on, if anyone things that Crammond can beat this there on
> ***.

> > > > <yawn>

> > > > Is this newsgroup turning into a troll fest of people who think the
> name of
> > > > this NG is : comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.arcade.racing ???

> > > > Shaun, graphics don't mean a GOOD quality title.  Graphics don't
> create
> > > > intense and immerse gameplay options like GP2 had and GP3 will have.
> > > > Graphics don't create the sensation of really racing a F1 car to it's
> limit,
> > > > it only increase it a little IF and the IF is important here... IF you
> have
> > > > a quality game engine that models accurately a F1 car.

> > > > --
> > > > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > > > -- May the Downforce be with you...

> > > > "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't
> realise
> > > > how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Stif

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by Stif » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00

To say that a company will not spend all that money on rights just to go and
make a game arcadish is just BS. They would put Nascar on a poison bottle if
it sold. Take all the driving games on the market and I would say that the
over whelming majority are "arcade". Most people unlike ourselves want a
pedal to the metal game. Arcade out sells sims any day, look at GPL it is
the best auto sim in the world and it was a marketing failure. To be good at
a sim racing game you must be a little fanatical (look at us, we're
discussing it on a news group!). Most people don't give a shit about this
kind of stuff. They want to start up the PC and just drive, no screwing
around with set ups or finding the breaking points on a track. They just
want to drive Schueys (or Ernhart or whom ever) car real fast. I'm not
saying that this new game won't be good but we will hold our collective
breaths until we see hard evidence. I hope you are right. And speaking of
intelligence I'll quote you, "A company wont go out and buy the expensive
rights to something like F1 and just go and make an arcadish game out of it,
oh except OF1R" how do your feet taste?
Al Stiff
"I was wrong once in my life, you see I thought I was wrong but I was not,
so therefore I was wrong for thinking I was wrong"

> Go on.  You do have something intelligent to add to that, right?

> If were gonna use Nascar Revolution against EA F1, why not use SOS aginst
> Microprose's GP3?  Thing is we can't do that.  EA is a huge crew, not just
1 guy
> programing every single game.  Same with Microprose, Crammond didn't make
SOS,
> so why use that aginst him?  You see where this is going.

> DjFIL


> > Two words "Nascar Revolution"........................



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Phil Winsto

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by Phil Winsto » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00



Most of us would agree. Nascar Revolution was the pits.

It was the absolute best motorbike sim on the PC, which is now only
second to GP500.

A classic and original arcade style series of games. Very good too!

Blow me away! Sports Car GT BAD? It really must take a LOT to please
you! Besides some odd AI, SCGT rocks!

Phil Winstow
     ICQ: 57400677

ymenar

EA F1 2000 GP3 beater...

by ymenar » Fri, 17 Dec 1999 04:00:00


opinion.).

Huh ?

It's like... they _will_ actually waste it on an arcade game.  What's wrong
with that ? It sells ALOT of software, it is much more popular. Why is this
wrong ? I personally have no problem with people who like that type of games
or software who are released as arcade games. But as a racing simulator fan,
I prefer realistic ones.  And the thing that tickles me the most is when an
arcade-software is being promoted as realistic.

Ever heard about Psygnosis ? Or the EA series of NASCAR arcade-type games ?
What about SEGA who spent million of dollars for the Daytona track license ?

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."


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