As most of you know, ive been thoroughly for GP3 in the lead up to its
release instead of against it. I was totally looking forward to it
all friday, got out of work and went striaght to the computer shop in
town hoping that they would have a copy of it. They did, and i bought
it straight away.
My first opinion is mixed, there is a lot of good and a lot of bad
things about the game. It is definatly similar to GP2 which isnt
exactly a bad thing. I quite like the game.
I just did my first proper race then, after only stuffing around with
it earlier.
I chose Australia, did realistic weather, and i was Fisichella in the
Benneton. I went to the Australia GP in 98 so i remembered the track
well, and all the sponsers etc.
It is VERY well re created, the coloured sand pits, the qantas
sponsers, even down to how the grass was mowed!!!
It was a dry Qualifying session, and it was on rookie, with brakes,
indestructible and autocorrect off.
I went out, and noticed straight away just how quick the car brakes.
Very different to the GP2 braking. Usually you would need ot brake
near the 150 mark or so in GP2 and it would be a gradual brake down
the gears, in GP3 you can brake at the 100m mark and go into the
corner to slow!!! This put me off a bit as i was unsure where to
brake, so i went off a few times.
I ended up witha 1.36.7 and on pole. I thought, beauty, it wasnt the
best lap, but it was still pretty good. The cars looked great, as did
the pit crew. The trees especially on the west side of the track
looked very blocky, but some trees are blocky close up in GPL as well.
Onto the race. It was wet. GREAT i thought. On pole, in the prime
position, and it was a medium type rain, with monsoon later in the
race (around 20% in)
I started well, which was good, got into the lead, but broke too late
into turn 1 in the wet, which was where i broke for in the dry. I
went on the kerb and got touched by schumacher from the side. We both
spun, caused some major chaos and struggled to get out of it. I ended
up 21st by the end of the second turn!! I only finished 2 laps before
i got hit by Panis and lost a wheel (it was my fault tho)
My opinion on this game. Im a bit dissapointed...some of the things
are plain confusing, and ***in annoying.
The wheel is annoying, it seems like i have no control over it
sometimes. It looks like the driver is ifhgting with the wheel, which
is a good thing, but it gives the impression that i dont have control.
In GPL you can turn anyway you want on a turn, straight etc. You cant
do this in GP3. If you are on a straight and slow right down and try
to turn the opposite way, the wheel only turns about 10% and you glide
intot he wall. If you want to turn say left, and a right hand corner,
you cant. I use the keyboard, and if you press left, you go straight
on.
THE single most annoying thing, other than not getting steering help
off, is that you cant actaully stop toa halt. If i brake down to 0
km, and then i let go of the brake button, it starts to speed upto
about 20 km, which is ***y annoying if youve just spun and want to
try to spin turn it.
Some things need to be fixed. I wish i knew how to turn the steering
help off. All the other buttons are black, and green. But teh
steering help option is a greyish colour, that you cant change.
ohwell, i still like this game. I shall continue having fun
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Macca
"I'd kill myself for you...Id kill you for myself"
Pantera - This Love
You are using a default control set, you need to setup your own. When
you 've done that all the greyed out stuff will be selectable. I
struggled with that for an hour before the penny dropped. It's a case of
a simple thing that's been over complicated.
Good luck
Norm
> >The wheel is annoying, it seems like i have no control over it
> >sometimes. It looks like the driver is ifhgting with the wheel, which
> >is a good thing, but it gives the impression that i dont have control.
> Sounds as if you may have a little spiking in your wheel.
> Try increasing the deadzone slightly.
> >In GPL you can turn anyway you want on a turn, straight etc. You cant
> >do this in GP3. If you are on a straight and slow right down and try
> >to turn the opposite way, the wheel only turns about 10% and you glide
> >intot he wall. If you want to turn say left, and a right hand corner,
> >you cant. I use the keyboard, and if you press left, you go straight
> >on.
> You have a Microsoft FF wheel, right? There is a known problem.
> Also, you are -definitely- experiencing push (understeer). Try doing
> the keyboard thing in GPL and tell us what it does.
> >THE single most annoying thing, other than not getting steering help
> >off, is that you cant actaully stop toa halt. If i brake down to 0
> >km, and then i let go of the brake button, it starts to speed upto
> >about 20 km, which is ***y annoying if youve just spun and want to
> >try to spin turn it.
> Idling motor, Macca. Ticking over, if you prefer. Press and hold
> your shift lever to disengage the clutch. Not a problem. Realistic.
I think the start is irritating as well, it's just to easy to have a good
reaction time. It's impossible to have a bad one.
> >You can actually turn it off. I'm also EXTREMELY annoyed by the car
> >creeping when idling in gear, but I'm not sure if this is at all
inaccurate,
> >since you *are* providing engine power to the "drive" wheels when you put
in
> >gear. I think they overdid it, though.
> Luis:
> 1) Go to your street car and rev the engine to 2500-3000 rpm
> (the idle speed of a modern F1)
> 2) Drop your car into gear.
> 3) Note what happens.
> 4) Report back to us with your findings.
> Thanks.
Please tell me how you turn it off. I can go into options, and turn
off Steering help, but on the wheel in the game its grey, when
everything else is fluro green (meaning on) or black (meaning off) so
i got no idea how to turn it off, as i actually went into the options
and DID turn it off
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Macca
"I'd kill myself for you...Id kill you for myself"
Pantera - This Love
>>The wheel is annoying, it seems like i have no control over it
>>sometimes. It looks like the driver is ifhgting with the wheel, which
>>is a good thing, but it gives the impression that i dont have control.
>Sounds as if you may have a little spiking in your wheel.
>Try increasing the deadzone slightly.
i dont have a wheel. In GPL you can turn the opposite way from the
turn and actually turn that way. In GP3, you go straight on.
Idling motor. You mean, on the grid you dont touch the keys at all,
and you creep forward. If thats so, then why cant you creep forward
before the lights go out.
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Macca
"I'd kill myself for you...Id kill you for myself"
Pantera - This Love
L.S.
> 2) Drop your car into gear.
> 3) Note what happens.
> 4) Report back to us with your findings.
> Thanks.
Without auto-throttle to stop the engine from stalling, the
low rotational inertia of the F1 engine surely would kill it
immediately at a idle rpm / no throttle start, but how much
would it pull at idle rpm with proper amount of throttle?
The F1 has a completely insane power to weight ratio compared
to the street car, but on the other hand the level of tuning
of the F1 engine also reduces the relative level of torque
at low rpm's a lot.
So the problem now is to judge if the factor 20 higher power
to weight ratio of the F1 is enough to make it pull harder
than a street car at idle rpm's, despite the extreme level
of tuning.
I don't know :-)
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Mats Lofkvist
>One word ---> 'Understeer'.
>(Look it up)
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Macca
"I'd kill myself for you...Id kill you for myself"
Pantera - This Love
I know what you mean Macca. There are two lots of steering assist in GP3.
One is in the normal driving aids, the other is in the Controller Setup.
There is a bar that that says "Steering Assist" (or something like that),
and it defaults to 100%. If you turn this down to 0%, then it will get rid
of your problem.. You can only change this if you create a new setup option.
Click on the right of screen to where it says "Unused" and set up your
controller from scratch. This DOESN'T work when setting up a new keyboard
setup !! (I don't know why though)
Hope this helps...
>Yes. Turn OFF the driving aids. It is trying to steer you
>automatically into the corner.
>That will fix it.
>Hope this helps...
Macca,
Since the resident GP3 guru seems to have trouble communicating
with you, I'll try (even though I don't have GP3).
First, rrevved, he's using the keyboard (try reading his original
post).
Second, GP2 (and since GP3 is JLGP2) had steering help in two
places, one in aids and one in controller setup.
Third, if you are using the keyboard, I think it may be impossible
to turn one of those aids off. Sorry.
"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark
