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GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

Rafe McAulif

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Rafe McAulif » Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:51:10

So what do those of you who've tried the new addon think of it?

My impressions? I didn't think that much was going to be changed to
the physics, but it just *feels* a lot nicer to drive. Maybe this is
updated physics to suit the 2000 spec cars? But the car can be pushed
a lot harder for better lap times. I have a heap more confidence when
attacking the chicanes, more chance that I can catch any oversteer.

The *canned spins* factor that has always been so present with gp3
seems to have been toned down, although they still seem to be present.
Just that the car seems a bit more *catchable* if you like.

An unexpected bonus is that the setup of the differential has been
changed totally, you are now able to alter the power and coast sides,
with a large number of degrees of settings available. A VERY welcome
change :D

Also seems to run a tad faster, I'm now able to run 1280 rather than
1024. Not much faster mind you, just a little bit. Maybe when they
updated the graphics on the circuits they optimised them further.

Using controllers has been enhanced a bit too, it now operates like it
always SHOULD have from the start :)

The bottom line? It's a bit rough to expect GP3 owners to have to pay
for the update. It should be available as a low cost 'upgrade' to
existing owners, even as an updated patch. As a full release it's
certainly much better than the original GP3 (but we all know of the
problems that were there from day 1 with that)

I know that most of the updates are already available on the internet,
but I think there are a lot of subtle changes which enhance it
further. These should be available as a patch though, not requiring it
to be bought a second time.

Rafe Mc

Iain Mackenzi

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Iain Mackenzi » Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:06:44

Where did you get it from?


Simon Brow

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Simon Brow » Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:35:45

Since it's not available here (uk) yet, could you tell me whether the 25 fps
frame rate limit is still there, and whether the graphics still look as
'clunky'?
Cheers,
Simon.


Jonny Hodgso

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Jonny Hodgso » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 02:09:24


But I thought many of the F1 teams were running VCs by then, not
Salisburys...

Jonny

Tony Whitle

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Tony Whitle » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 03:43:19

Yes and yes, but I think that GP3fps works on it and I'm sure the third
party carsets will be ported to it pretty soon.

BTW the cars still hang in mid-air in the pits.

--

Tony Whitley
GPLRank -0.54
MonsterRank 407 and falling...
"On some laps I'd get as many as fif*** corners really right, but Moss, he
gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand
Prix.

Rafe McAulif

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Rafe McAulif » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:11:44

Agree totally, the graphics are 'updated' but they're still as dodgy
as ever. On the plus side, the***pit does look much nicer now,
pretty well done.

Second bonus is being able to run it in a higher res, which helps too.
But if you were already running full res, then this isn't much of a
bonus.

Cars*** in the air is weird, but then they suddenly start talking
to you :P Creepy.

Rafe Mc

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:43:19 +0100, "Tony Whitley"

Rafe McAulif

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Rafe McAulif » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:15:11

i have no idea what kind of diffs they're running in F1, but there are
4 different options for setting your diff, 2 for power side, 2 for
coast side. One is "difference in shaft speed", able to be set from 1
to 8 I think, the other is based on input torque, from 1 to 8 again.

Bottom line is you can now set your diff up to suit yourself, rather
than 3 generic settings. Works for me, car control in GP3 has never
been better for getting the power down :D

Rafe Mc

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:09:24 +0100, "Jonny Hodgson"




>> An unexpected bonus is that the setup of the differential has been
>> changed totally, you are now able to alter the power and coast
>sides,
>> with a large number of degrees of settings available. A VERY welcome
>> change :D

>But I thought many of the F1 teams were running VCs by then, not
>Salisburys...

>Jonny

Rafe McAulif

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Rafe McAulif » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:23:44

Special update source ;) Since this is what I originally paid for and
what I expected to be put out as a patch, I have no issue with it
personally.

If GP4 is worth the wait, then that'll definitely be on my shopping
list. But that's a hell of a wait, given their current development
schedule.

Rafe Mc

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 07:06:44 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie"


>Where did you get it from?



>> So what do those of you who've tried the new addon think of it?

>> My impressions? I didn't think that much was going to be changed to
>> the physics, but it just *feels* a lot nicer to drive. Maybe this is
>> updated physics to suit the 2000 spec cars? But the car can be pushed
>> a lot harder for better lap times. I have a heap more confidence when
>> attacking the chicanes, more chance that I can catch any oversteer.

>> The *canned spins* factor that has always been so present with gp3
>> seems to have been toned down, although they still seem to be present.
>> Just that the car seems a bit more *catchable* if you like.

>> An unexpected bonus is that the setup of the differential has been
>> changed totally, you are now able to alter the power and coast sides,
>> with a large number of degrees of settings available. A VERY welcome
>> change :D

>> Also seems to run a tad faster, I'm now able to run 1280 rather than
>> 1024. Not much faster mind you, just a little bit. Maybe when they
>> updated the graphics on the circuits they optimised them further.

>> Using controllers has been enhanced a bit too, it now operates like it
>> always SHOULD have from the start :)

>> The bottom line? It's a bit rough to expect GP3 owners to have to pay
>> for the update. It should be available as a low cost 'upgrade' to
>> existing owners, even as an updated patch. As a full release it's
>> certainly much better than the original GP3 (but we all know of the
>> problems that were there from day 1 with that)

>> I know that most of the updates are already available on the internet,
>> but I think there are a lot of subtle changes which enhance it
>> further. These should be available as a patch though, not requiring it
>> to be bought a second time.

>> Rafe Mc

Iain Mackenzi

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Iain Mackenzi » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:29:39


detail has looked pretty good to me.  It does look dated and pixellated at
lower res though.
Iain


> Agree totally, the graphics are 'updated' but they're still as dodgy
> as ever. On the plus side, the***pit does look much nicer now,
> pretty well done.

> Second bonus is being able to run it in a higher res, which helps too.
> But if you were already running full res, then this isn't much of a
> bonus.

> Cars*** in the air is weird, but then they suddenly start talking
> to you :P Creepy.

> Rafe Mc

> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:43:19 +0100, "Tony Whitley"

> >"Simon Brown" wrote...
> >> Since it's not available here (uk) yet, could you tell me whether the
25
> >fps
> >> frame rate limit is still there, and whether the graphics still look as
> >> 'clunky'?
> >> Cheers,
> >> Simon.
> >Yes and yes, but I think that GP3fps works on it and I'm sure the third
> >party carsets will be ported to it pretty soon.

> >BTW the cars still hang in mid-air in the pits.

Tony Whitle

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Tony Whitle » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:51:37

Wrong! But Matti Laitinen has already released an update.

And of course crashed cars still levitate over the barriers.

I don't see why everyone has a problem paying for a "patch". EA bring out a
new "FIFA" game every year (since '95 IIRC) that just has the season's
"skins" and some minor tweaks to the (appalling) "physics".

--

Tony Whitley
GPLRank -0.54
MonsterRank 407 and falling...
"On some laps I'd get as many as fif*** corners really right, but Moss, he
gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand
Prix.

Coco

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Coco » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:19:04

Nobody mention the new fastlaps features, this is pretty cool and also the
new EAX support, try a Quickrace
and hear all the roaring of all the other cars on the grid (aka GPL)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bye Coco


> So what do those of you who've tried the new addon think of it?

> My impressions? I didn't think that much was going to be changed to
> the physics, but it just *feels* a lot nicer to drive. Maybe this is
> updated physics to suit the 2000 spec cars? But the car can be pushed
> a lot harder for better lap times. I have a heap more confidence when
> attacking the chicanes, more chance that I can catch any oversteer.

> The *canned spins* factor that has always been so present with gp3
> seems to have been toned down, although they still seem to be present.
> Just that the car seems a bit more *catchable* if you like.

> An unexpected bonus is that the setup of the differential has been
> changed totally, you are now able to alter the power and coast sides,
> with a large number of degrees of settings available. A VERY welcome
> change :D

> Also seems to run a tad faster, I'm now able to run 1280 rather than
> 1024. Not much faster mind you, just a little bit. Maybe when they
> updated the graphics on the circuits they optimised them further.

> Using controllers has been enhanced a bit too, it now operates like it
> always SHOULD have from the start :)

> The bottom line? It's a bit rough to expect GP3 owners to have to pay
> for the update. It should be available as a low cost 'upgrade' to
> existing owners, even as an updated patch. As a full release it's
> certainly much better than the original GP3 (but we all know of the
> problems that were there from day 1 with that)

> I know that most of the updates are already available on the internet,
> but I think there are a lot of subtle changes which enhance it
> further. These should be available as a patch though, not requiring it
> to be bought a second time.

> Rafe Mc

Greg Cisk

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:28:04

In other words warez/pirated...

--



> Special update source ;) Since this is what I originally paid for and
> what I expected to be put out as a patch, I have no issue with it
> personally.

> If GP4 is worth the wait, then that'll definitely be on my shopping
> list. But that's a hell of a wait, given their current development
> schedule.

> Rafe Mc

> On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 07:06:44 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie"

> >Where did you get it from?



> >> So what do those of you who've tried the new addon think of it?

> >> My impressions? I didn't think that much was going to be changed to
> >> the physics, but it just *feels* a lot nicer to drive. Maybe this is
> >> updated physics to suit the 2000 spec cars? But the car can be pushed
> >> a lot harder for better lap times. I have a heap more confidence when
> >> attacking the chicanes, more chance that I can catch any oversteer.

> >> The *canned spins* factor that has always been so present with gp3
> >> seems to have been toned down, although they still seem to be present.
> >> Just that the car seems a bit more *catchable* if you like.

> >> An unexpected bonus is that the setup of the differential has been
> >> changed totally, you are now able to alter the power and coast sides,
> >> with a large number of degrees of settings available. A VERY welcome
> >> change :D

> >> Also seems to run a tad faster, I'm now able to run 1280 rather than
> >> 1024. Not much faster mind you, just a little bit. Maybe when they
> >> updated the graphics on the circuits they optimised them further.

> >> Using controllers has been enhanced a bit too, it now operates like it
> >> always SHOULD have from the start :)

> >> The bottom line? It's a bit rough to expect GP3 owners to have to pay
> >> for the update. It should be available as a low cost 'upgrade' to
> >> existing owners, even as an updated patch. As a full release it's
> >> certainly much better than the original GP3 (but we all know of the
> >> problems that were there from day 1 with that)

> >> I know that most of the updates are already available on the internet,
> >> but I think there are a lot of subtle changes which enhance it
> >> further. These should be available as a patch though, not requiring it
> >> to be bought a second time.

> >> Rafe Mc

The Enigmatic O

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by The Enigmatic O » Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:55:46



        Your point?

        The poster's point was valid.  This should be a patch.

                                -Tim

nascaro

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by nascaro » Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:08:35

Multiplayer doesnt work in gp3 2000. We have tested it TC/IP internet and it
wont connect and we race alot on TC/IP games so we are not wookies...

> Nobody mention the new fastlaps features, this is pretty cool and also the
> new EAX support, try a Quickrace
> and hear all the roaring of all the other cars on the grid (aka GPL)
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Bye Coco


> > So what do those of you who've tried the new addon think of it?

> > My impressions? I didn't think that much was going to be changed to
> > the physics, but it just *feels* a lot nicer to drive. Maybe this is
> > updated physics to suit the 2000 spec cars? But the car can be pushed
> > a lot harder for better lap times. I have a heap more confidence when
> > attacking the chicanes, more chance that I can catch any oversteer.

> > The *canned spins* factor that has always been so present with gp3
> > seems to have been toned down, although they still seem to be present.
> > Just that the car seems a bit more *catchable* if you like.

> > An unexpected bonus is that the setup of the differential has been
> > changed totally, you are now able to alter the power and coast sides,
> > with a large number of degrees of settings available. A VERY welcome
> > change :D

> > Also seems to run a tad faster, I'm now able to run 1280 rather than
> > 1024. Not much faster mind you, just a little bit. Maybe when they
> > updated the graphics on the circuits they optimised them further.

> > Using controllers has been enhanced a bit too, it now operates like it
> > always SHOULD have from the start :)

> > The bottom line? It's a bit rough to expect GP3 owners to have to pay
> > for the update. It should be available as a low cost 'upgrade' to
> > existing owners, even as an updated patch. As a full release it's
> > certainly much better than the original GP3 (but we all know of the
> > problems that were there from day 1 with that)

> > I know that most of the updates are already available on the internet,
> > but I think there are a lot of subtle changes which enhance it
> > further. These should be available as a patch though, not requiring it
> > to be bought a second time.

> > Rafe Mc

Iain Mackenzi

GP3 season 2000 - opinions?

by Iain Mackenzi » Sun, 26 Aug 2001 19:01:00

3D sound, other car sounds, and sound for events (and many other features)
are all in GPxPatch.
Iain

> Nobody mention the new fastlaps features, this is pretty cool and also the
> new EAX support, try a Quickrace
> and hear all the roaring of all the other cars on the grid (aka GPL)
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Bye Coco


> > So what do those of you who've tried the new addon think of it?

> > My impressions? I didn't think that much was going to be changed to
> > the physics, but it just *feels* a lot nicer to drive. Maybe this is
> > updated physics to suit the 2000 spec cars? But the car can be pushed
> > a lot harder for better lap times. I have a heap more confidence when
> > attacking the chicanes, more chance that I can catch any oversteer.

> > The *canned spins* factor that has always been so present with gp3
> > seems to have been toned down, although they still seem to be present.
> > Just that the car seems a bit more *catchable* if you like.

> > An unexpected bonus is that the setup of the differential has been
> > changed totally, you are now able to alter the power and coast sides,
> > with a large number of degrees of settings available. A VERY welcome
> > change :D

> > Also seems to run a tad faster, I'm now able to run 1280 rather than
> > 1024. Not much faster mind you, just a little bit. Maybe when they
> > updated the graphics on the circuits they optimised them further.

> > Using controllers has been enhanced a bit too, it now operates like it
> > always SHOULD have from the start :)

> > The bottom line? It's a bit rough to expect GP3 owners to have to pay
> > for the update. It should be available as a low cost 'upgrade' to
> > existing owners, even as an updated patch. As a full release it's
> > certainly much better than the original GP3 (but we all know of the
> > problems that were there from day 1 with that)

> > I know that most of the updates are already available on the internet,
> > but I think there are a lot of subtle changes which enhance it
> > further. These should be available as a patch though, not requiring it
> > to be bought a second time.

> > Rafe Mc


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