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F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

sc

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by sc » Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:00:00

You should see them crash their way through Eau Rouge, itz so
appalling its not funny



>Ok, I just don't get it.. The AI in this game are horrible to
say the
>least.
>I just tried a race at Indy. AI set at 95%

>During the gosh darn formation lap 4 cars CRASHED???
>The hell?
>Excuse me? I thought formation was the easiest fricken part of
the
>race for crying out loud?

>Then during the race (which was 73 laps) only 3 cars finished
on the
>LEAD lap!
>2 were 2 laps down, and 11 were 4+ laps down..
>6 cars were out for crashing.

>This is ABSURD!
>I have really tried to like this game but add the horrible
system spec
>requirements to even get decent FPS then on top of that the
incredibly
>idiotic AI and F1 2000 is just plain annoying.
>It's hard to believe ISI would program such utter crap.
>I was actually going to work for them but if this is the kind of
>dribble they are passing off then I'm glad I didn't take their
offer.

>Am I Pissed? Hell yes.. After SCGT I thought they would have
IMPROVED
>not gotten worse.
>If they are depending on 3rd party people to improve their game
for
>them, well they can kiss my ass because I'm not spending
countless
>hours improving THEIR work for free like I did with SCGT.
>In SCGT everyone was complaining about the AI being too slow in
the
>straights and faster in the turns.. Well golly Gee Gommer...
Lets do
>the opposite.. they can now pass at 2x your top speed in the
straights
>now but horrible in the turns...

>Someone tell me they are going to patch this swine heap fast??

>- James "Gunslinger" Wohlever

>Techware Computer Services
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by James Wohleve » Sat, 25 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Ok, I just don't get it.. The AI in this game are horrible to say the
least.
I just tried a race at Indy. AI set at 95%

During the gosh darn formation lap 4 cars CRASHED???
The hell?
Excuse me? I thought formation was the easiest fricken part of the
race for crying out loud?

Then during the race (which was 73 laps) only 3 cars finished on the
LEAD lap!
2 were 2 laps down, and 11 were 4+ laps down..
6 cars were out for crashing.

This is ABSURD!
I have really tried to like this game but add the horrible system spec
requirements to even get decent FPS then on top of that the incredibly
idiotic AI and F1 2000 is just plain annoying.
It's hard to believe ISI would program such utter crap.
I was actually going to work for them but if this is the kind of
dribble they are passing off then I'm glad I didn't take their offer.

Am I Pissed? Hell yes.. After SCGT I thought they would have IMPROVED
not gotten worse.
If they are depending on 3rd party people to improve their game for
them, well they can kiss my ass because I'm not spending countless
hours improving THEIR work for free like I did with SCGT.
In SCGT everyone was complaining about the AI being too slow in the
straights and faster in the turns.. Well golly Gee Gommer... Lets do
the opposite.. they can now pass at 2x your top speed in the straights
now but horrible in the turns...

Someone tell me they are going to patch this swine heap fast??

- James "Gunslinger" Wohlever

Techware Computer Services
http://techware.gtinsider.com

Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:

Shaun Robinso

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by Shaun Robinso » Sat, 25 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Did you see the Spa race in '98? F-1 is pathetic, there is no racing its
follow the leader.

> Ok, I just don't get it.. The AI in this game are horrible to say the
> least.
> I just tried a race at Indy. AI set at 95%

> During the gosh darn formation lap 4 cars CRASHED???
> The hell?
> Excuse me? I thought formation was the easiest fricken part of the
> race for crying out loud?

> Then during the race (which was 73 laps) only 3 cars finished on the
> LEAD lap!
> 2 were 2 laps down, and 11 were 4+ laps down..
> 6 cars were out for crashing.

> This is ABSURD!
> I have really tried to like this game but add the horrible system spec
> requirements to even get decent FPS then on top of that the incredibly
> idiotic AI and F1 2000 is just plain annoying.
> It's hard to believe ISI would program such utter crap.
> I was actually going to work for them but if this is the kind of
> dribble they are passing off then I'm glad I didn't take their offer.

> Am I Pissed? Hell yes.. After SCGT I thought they would have IMPROVED
> not gotten worse.
> If they are depending on 3rd party people to improve their game for
> them, well they can kiss my ass because I'm not spending countless
> hours improving THEIR work for free like I did with SCGT.
> In SCGT everyone was complaining about the AI being too slow in the
> straights and faster in the turns.. Well golly Gee Gommer... Lets do
> the opposite.. they can now pass at 2x your top speed in the straights
> now but horrible in the turns...

> Someone tell me they are going to patch this swine heap fast??

> - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever

> Techware Computer Services
> http://techware.gtinsider.com

> Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:


Dan Belch

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by Dan Belch » Sat, 25 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I'd like to see you do better at 180 mph in the rain in a Formula One car.  :-)

P.S.  I'm not implying I could, cause I don't even have my drivers license yet.
 heh

Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited
http://simcrashes.cjb.net

Ma

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by Ma » Sat, 25 Mar 2000 04:00:00

That's the one bad thing about F1, most lead changes occur in the pits
or because of car failure.  If you want to watch some real exciting
open wheel racing, watch Indycar on the road course races.
Coli

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by Coli » Sat, 25 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Interesting argument...
Hey, do you know that soccer is shite too because I watched one game between
Man Utd and Liverpool two years ago and it ended in a nil-nil draw?

Were you watching the same race as me two weeks ago???


Shaun Robinso

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by Shaun Robinso » Sat, 25 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Let me explain in deeper detail; i religiously watch f-1. Wouldn't miss
a news tid-bit for the world. All i was getting at was its a
manufacturers race now and the results that the original post had about
the indy race sounded legit. For that spa race not many cars finished,
and i was informed from a friend that melborne that year was even worse.
Hell, three cars on the lead lap sounds absurd, one would still be
realistic.

> Interesting argument...
> Hey, do you know that soccer is shite too because I watched one game between
> Man Utd and Liverpool two years ago and it ended in a nil-nil draw?

> > "F1 is pathetic"
> Were you watching the same race as me two weeks ago???



> > Did you see the Spa race in '98? F-1 is pathetic, there is no racing its
> > follow the leader.

Stephen Ferguso

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by Stephen Ferguso » Sun, 26 Mar 2000 04:00:00


I think we all remember Spa '98.  And with something like 12 cars eliminated
before Eau Rouge on the first lap, it sounds like EA's AI might not be so
inaccurate afterall. :-)

Stephen


> > Ok, I just don't get it.. The AI in this game are horrible to say the
> > least.
> > I just tried a race at Indy. AI set at 95%

> > During the gosh darn formation lap 4 cars CRASHED???
> > The hell?
> > Excuse me? I thought formation was the easiest fricken part of the
> > race for crying out loud?

> > Then during the race (which was 73 laps) only 3 cars finished on the
> > LEAD lap!
> > 2 were 2 laps down, and 11 were 4+ laps down..
> > 6 cars were out for crashing.

> > This is ABSURD!
> > I have really tried to like this game but add the horrible system spec
> > requirements to even get decent FPS then on top of that the incredibly
> > idiotic AI and F1 2000 is just plain annoying.
> > It's hard to believe ISI would program such utter crap.
> > I was actually going to work for them but if this is the kind of
> > dribble they are passing off then I'm glad I didn't take their offer.

> > Am I Pissed? Hell yes.. After SCGT I thought they would have IMPROVED
> > not gotten worse.
> > If they are depending on 3rd party people to improve their game for
> > them, well they can kiss my ass because I'm not spending countless
> > hours improving THEIR work for free like I did with SCGT.
> > In SCGT everyone was complaining about the AI being too slow in the
> > straights and faster in the turns.. Well golly Gee Gommer... Lets do
> > the opposite.. they can now pass at 2x your top speed in the straights
> > now but horrible in the turns...

> > Someone tell me they are going to patch this swine heap fast??

> > - James "Gunslinger" Wohlever

> > Techware Computer Services
> > http://techware.gtinsider.com

> > Send ATTACHMENTS (Files) to:


Eldre

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by Eldre » Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:00:00


writes:

That was the HUGE wreck on the first lap, right?  Just curious.

Eldred
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Shaun Robinso

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by Shaun Robinso » Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Oh ya... +/- 15 cars that were total write-offs, totaling what? 45
million dollar (canadian) crash. Of course after the interlagos race i
have renewed faith in the 'racing' aspect. -i didn't reveal anything-


> writes:

> >Did you see the Spa race in '98? F-1 is pathetic, there is no racing its
> >follow the leader.

> That was the HUGE wreck on the first lap, right?  Just curious.

> Eldred
> --
> Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
> Own Grand Prix Legends?  Goto  http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc

> Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
> with experience...
> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Stephen Ferguso

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by Stephen Ferguso » Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:00:00


Once again confirming that the AI in F1-2000 is spot-on!

Stephen





John Wallac

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by John Wallac » Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:00:00

On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 02:05:29 -0500, James Wohlever


>During the gosh darn formation lap 4 cars CRASHED???
>The hell?

Are you sure it wasn't David Coulthard crashing four times...? :-)

Cheers!
John

John Wallac

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by John Wallac » Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:00:00

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:53:23 -0800, sc


>You should see them crash their way through Eau Rouge, itz so
>appalling its not funny

You ain't kidding - I started last at Spa, was 11th coming out of La
Source and 6th going through Kemmel - the carnage I was picking my way
through was horrible.

Cheers!
John

Peter Hoope

F1 2000: What in the HELL is wrong with the AI ????

by Peter Hoope » Thu, 30 Mar 2000 04:00:00

What was so special about the race 2 weeks ago. Apart from a couple of
battles mid-pack (which of course were hardly covered) there wasn't exactly
much to get e***d about. Looked just like so many other races from the
last couple of years.

Peter Hooper


> Interesting argument...
> Hey, do you know that soccer is shite too because I watched one game
between
> Man Utd and Liverpool two years ago and it ended in a nil-nil draw?

> > "F1 is pathetic"
> Were you watching the same race as me two weeks ago???



> > Did you see the Spa race in '98? F-1 is pathetic, there is no racing its
> > follow the leader.


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