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U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

Randy Magrud

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Randy Magrud » Wed, 20 May 1998 04:00:00


>>Ta-da!  Buy any of the 3 or 4 steering wheels avaiable for for the
>>Playstation-- they even have pedals!

>Just don't touch them or they'll fall apart.

Nonsense.

Randy
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Randy Magrud

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Randy Magrud » Wed, 20 May 1998 04:00:00


>I'm sorry if I offended you by "bashing" your precious game.
>Personally, I don't find the arcade view or "I am frying my ass off on
>pavement because there's no car around me" view REALISTIC.

Question.  What do you look at when you're driving a real car?  The
road?  Or your fine leather interior?

In other words, if you don't have any experience with it...knock it.

Such a closed minded attitude has just robbed you of the finest car
racing sim on any platform.  Oh well.

I hope they put it out on the PC, as well...but if they don't, it
doesn't take a thing away from the Playstation version.

Randy
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Bill Bechtol

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Bill Bechtol » Wed, 20 May 1998 04:00:00


> I'm sorry if I offended you by "bashing" your precious game.
> Personally, I don't find the arcade view or "I am frying my ass off on
> pavement because there's no car around me" view REALISTIC.

So, if you want realistic, why don't you go race *real* cars?  I do.  I
don't think that PC games are realistic because I cannot smell my tires and
brakes, I cannot feel the road, etc.  But,  I like Gran Turismo for some
fun on the side.  Sure, it isn't like real racing much at all, but it is
about as close as I've gotten.  For what its worth, some of my co-workers
(also club racers) also like the game....

So, if you like the PC games why are you posting here?  Aren't there PC
usenet groups for this?  Or do you just enjoy putting a stick in a hornets
nest to see what happens?

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U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by VABergfe » Wed, 20 May 1998 04:00:00

Wellllll, maybe not entirely.  I may have had bad luck -- or I may be heavy
footed (but frankly, I'm an *** who probably did not dish out as much abuse
or game time as a ***) -- but I went through 2 Mad Catz pedal sets.  The first
went quickly and I was able to return.  The second lasted 6 months of very
OCCASSIONAL use.  I bought a NeGcon instead, and while it's not a wheel, it
seems much more durable and certainly wins in the convenience and storage
catagories.

Jukka Hal

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Jukka Hal » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00



>>I'm sorry if I offended you by "bashing" your precious game.
>>Personally, I don't find the arcade view or "I am frying my ass off on
>>pavement because there's no car around me" view REALISTIC.

>Question.  What do you look at when you're driving a real car?  The
>road?  Or your fine leather interior?

I see both as I'm driving. Luckily I don't have tunnel vision inside
my head. Is it a plane? Is it a star? Is it Superman? Nooo, it is you
driving a car sitting on the hood. :-)
Jukka Hal

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Jukka Hal » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00


>So, if you like the PC games why are you posting here?  Aren't there PC
>usenet groups for this?  Or do you just enjoy putting a stick in a hornets
>nest to see what happens?

Apparently you didn't realize the original message on this thread was
crossposted to both Playstation groups and rec.autos.simulators?
In the latter people are mainly talking about PC racers, because
that's where most of the racing sims are.

Say what you will, but I still think the original GT review at Digital
Sportspage was an intentional flame bait. The fact that the reviewer
started this cross-posted thread just confirms that. Oh well.

For what it's worth, I have a Playstation and GT. No, it didn't make
me stop playing Ubisoft F1RS, and I am still looking forward to
Papyrus Grand Prix Legends too. That's where I think that review was
wrong, but I guess it is a matter of taste.

Jukka Hal

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Jukka Hal » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00


>I take it back, your mom is not a sheep.  Sheep are smarter than that.
>I think your mother had the genetic makeup of a mentally challenged
>gopher, which your father had fun stuffing.

Alex, it is easy to see you did take it very personally when someone
criticised a game you like. Not even Richard started insulting others,
like you did. Tsk tsk.
Ian Leaven

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Ian Leaven » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00

Check out this GT page I just found.
    http://www.tcpip-connection.com/
They have a IRC chat at #GranTurismo

Check out the page for details
Ian

Ricky Wayne Bro

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Ricky Wayne Bro » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00




>>>I'm sorry if I offended you by "bashing" your precious game.
>>>Personally, I don't find the arcade view or "I am frying my ass off on
>>>pavement because there's no car around me" view REALISTIC.

>>Question.  What do you look at when you're driving a real car?  The
>>road?  Or your fine leather interior?

>I see both as I'm driving. Luckily I don't have tunnel vision inside
>my head. Is it a plane? Is it a star? Is it Superman? Nooo, it is you
>driving a car sitting on the hood. :-)

The mind suppresses a car's interior when you're driving 200 MPH ... you're
completely occupied with what's going on outside the vehicle, not whether
your cigarette lighter is pushed in.  Speaking of visual stimuli, the
interior of a car doesn't change much;  the primary visual is what's
zipping outside the windows.  But I can accept the view that GT should have
a truer***pit view, but for me it's not terribly important to gameplay
and suspension of disbelief.

Ricky Wayne Brown

Digital Sportspage <www.digitalsports.com>

Ricky Wayne Bro

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Ricky Wayne Bro » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00



>>So, if you like the PC games why are you posting here?  Aren't there PC
>>usenet groups for this?  Or do you just enjoy putting a stick in a hornets
>>nest to see what happens?

>Apparently you didn't realize the original message on this thread was
>crossposted to both Playstation groups and rec.autos.simulators?
>In the latter people are mainly talking about PC racers, because
>that's where most of the racing sims are.

>Say what you will, but I still think the original GT review at Digital
>Sportspage was an intentional flame bait. The fact that the reviewer
>started this cross-posted thread just confirms that. Oh well.

He was trying to share his e***ment of the title with you.  The consensus
by the majority of magazines and reviewers everywhere is that this is one
of the best, if not the best, race game ever.  If he cannot share his joy
while comparing the state of games on one platform versus another, how can
he let those who like racers but do not own PSX's know to go check the game
out?  Such pessimism ....  He clearly enjoys racers on the PC and has made
this clear in reviews and on the UseNet.  I think there's flamebait going
on, but not in his review, and not by him ....

Then don't accuse Randy of flamebaiting if you really believe it is a
matter of taste.  You should just consider it a bonus that he knows enough
about the PC racers to have included a comparative set of references to
them in his PSX Gran Tourismo review.  It's meant to let people who play PC
racers get a sense of what this PSX game might be like for them, not make
them angry and bitter about PC race ***, of which he is admittedly quite
fond.

Ricky Wayne Brown

Digital Sportspage <www.digitalsports.com>

Bill Gill

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Bill Gill » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00



>>Ta-da!  Buy any of the 3 or 4 steering wheels avaiable for for the
>>Playstation-- they even have pedals!

>Just don't touch them or they'll fall apart.

But your original post indicated your limited understanding of the PSX
input options. How could you possibly comment on the quality when you
obviously never touched any of them?

Regards-

Bill

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Bill Gill

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by Bill Gill » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00



>Gee, I never realized PlayStation owners were so sensitive! If you
>like simulation driving by pushing buttons fine, what's up to you. My
>contention is that if you want to SIMULATE driving, my personal
>snotty, self proclaimed PC sim lovin' *** choice is a wheel.

Then buy a wheel for the playstation.

Yeah, I think thats why most people buy wheels for their PCs. Just
like those who buy wheels for the PSX.

Regards-

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by Bill Gill » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00



>Owned one PSX, tried many boring games, and I tell ya, that NSF3 is a
>real challenge!  I have seen and tried the PSX controllers at the
>store. Thin, lightweight plastic shit seems to be the norm.

NSF3? Do you mean NFS3? That game for the PC, or are you talking about
the PSX one, or is the PSX one the only bad one?

You get what you pay for. There is a lot more cheap ***for PC's out
there.
Regards-

Bill

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Andrew Fielde

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Andrew Fielde » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00


> Didn't hurt though, limp wrists make for bad hand strength, is that why
> the sony gamepads give you so much trouble?  Cannot find the strength to
> push buttons?  I feel sorry for your grandfather, the only purebred
> homosapiens in your line, but it really his fault for mating with a
> donkey.

Is it possible to continue the discussion without resorting to
this puerile nonsense ?


UK

Richie You

U.S. Gran Turismo review up at Digital Sportspage

by Richie You » Thu, 21 May 1998 04:00:00

I think that was forgone when the orginal poster didn't post his
message with the facts at hand.   Truth is I'm a *** PC racing
sim fan, I have 2 T2 steering wheel and the new nascar Pro steering
wheel for my PC at home so I can do LAN racing games with friends.

But on the other side I'm also a hardcare PSX racing sim fan, I've got
a pair of DSP's 2 negcons, and am extremely happy with GT.  I read the
original post, and it strikes me that the person either didn't know
what he was talking about, or intentionally bashed GT for whatever
reason.

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