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ICR2: 1996 drivers2.txt data

Michael E. Carv

ICR2: 1996 drivers2.txt data

by Michael E. Carv » Tue, 09 Apr 1996 04:00:00

I've spent the afternoon trying to come up with a competive field of
1996 drivers for ICR2.  I carefully analyzed the EDS scoring data and
put together some data.  I've tried to balance out the field and
compensate for drivers that do well on ovals or road courses.  The
resulting data is based more on overall speed of the drivers/car combo,
rather than just finishing order.  For you brave souls out there plug in
the numbers and give 'em a try.  Any feedback will be greatly
appreciated.

Driver                   Power           Traction        Drag
                         Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum

Jimmy Vasser #12              490     562     499     562     500     501
Scott Pruett #20              458     562     469     562     500     600
Christian Fittipaldi #11      428     550     455     550     700     800
Andre Rebeiro #31             455     550     450     500     500     600
Al Unser, Jr. #2              444     550     430     525     600     700
Gil de Ferran #8              468     550     445     550     500     600
Greg Moore #99                452     550     464     500     500     600
Bobby Rahal #18               455     550     405     550     500     600
Robby Gordon #5               443     500     397     550     600     700
Alex Zanardi #4               456     550     451     562     500     600
Mauricio Gugelmin #17         415     500     448     500     500     600
Stefan Johansson #16          378     525     389     500     700     800
Raul Boesel #1                418     500     400     550     700     800
Eddie Lawson #10              383     525     423     500     750     800
Roberto Moreno #34            434     500     395     525     700     800
Michael Andretti #6           400     550     432     550     600     700
Bryan Herta #28               430     500     389     525     700     800
Hiro Matsushita #19           374     500     413     550     750     800
Emerson Fittipaldi #9         406     550     373     525     700     800
Adrian Fernandez #32          406     550     416     500     600     700
Paul Tracy #3                 414     550     453     550     600     700
Marco Greco #7                375     525     332     550     800     900
Scott Goodyear #15            389     550     332     550     750     800
Carlos Guerrero #22           380     525     388     500     700     800
Juan Manuel Fangio II #36     371     525     382     500     800     900
Parker Johnstone #49          438     550     420     550     500     600
Mark Blundell #18             378     525     332     550     700     800
Jeff Krosnoff #25             365     500     375     550     800     900

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Josh Beauli

ICR2: 1996 drivers2.txt data

by Josh Beauli » Tue, 09 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>Subject: ICR2: 1996 drivers2.txt data
>Date: 8 Apr 1996 05:51:37 GMT
>Driver                   Power           Traction        Drag
>                         Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum
>Jimmy Vasser #12              490     562     499     562     500     501
>Scott Pruett #20              458     562     469     562     500     600
>Christian Fittipaldi #11      428     550     455     550     700     800
>Andre Rebeiro #31             455     550     450     500     500     600
>Al Unser, Jr. #2              444     550     430     525     600     700
>Gil de Ferran #8              468     550     445     550     500     600
>Greg Moore #99                452     550     464     500     500     600
>Bobby Rahal #18               455     550     405     550     500     600
>Robby Gordon #5               443     500     397     550     600     700
>Alex Zanardi #4               456     550     451     562     500     600
>Mauricio Gugelmin #17         415     500     448     500     500     600
>Stefan Johansson #16          378     525     389     500     700     800
>Raul Boesel #1                418     500     400     550     700     800
>Eddie Lawson #10              383     525     423     500     750     800
>Roberto Moreno #34            434     500     395     525     700     800
>Michael Andretti #6           400     550     432     550     600     700
>Bryan Herta #28               430     500     389     525     700     800
>Hiro Matsushita #19           374     500     413     550     750     800
>Emerson Fittipaldi #9         406     550     373     525     700     800
>Adrian Fernandez #32          406     550     416     500     600     700
>Paul Tracy #3                 414     550     453     550     600     700
>Marco Greco #7                375     525     332     550     800     900
>Scott Goodyear #15            389     550     332     550     750     800
>Carlos Guerrero #22           380     525     388     500     700     800
>Juan Manuel Fangio II #36     371     525     382     500     800     900
>Parker Johnstone #49          438     550     420     550     500     600
>Mark Blundell #18             378     525     332     550     700     800
>Jeff Krosnoff #25             365     500     375     550     800     900

You're getting the drag numbers all wrong-- drag affects only the qualifying.  
Al. Jr should have the highest drag numbers while, say Jimmy Vasser, Michael
Andretti, and Paul Tracy should have the
lowest (all the good qualers.)  Hiro Matsushita  and all the other
backmarkers have WAY too good max powers and tractions.  Even their minimums
are WAY high.  I'll tell you what I do like though -- I like that the top
drivers have mins. in the 400's, rather than the default 300's.  This is
good -- you want a little more consistency than you get with the default-style
numbers...
Neil Yeatma

ICR2: 1996 drivers2.txt data

by Neil Yeatma » Tue, 09 Apr 1996 04:00:00


> I've spent the afternoon trying to come up with a competive field of
> 1996 drivers for ICR2.  I carefully analyzed the EDS scoring data and
> put together some data.  I've tried to balance out the field and
> compensate for drivers that do well on ovals or road courses.  The
> resulting data is based more on overall speed of the drivers/car combo,
> rather than just finishing order.  For you brave souls out there plug in
> the numbers and give 'em a try.  Any feedback will be greatly
> appreciated.

> Driver                   Power           Traction        Drag
>                          Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum Minimum Maximum

> Jimmy Vasser #12              490     562     499     562     500     501
> Scott Pruett #20              458     562     469     562     500     600
> Christian Fittipaldi #11      428     550     455     550     700     800
> Andre Rebeiro #31             455     550     450     500     500     600
> Al Unser, Jr. #2              444     550     430     525     600     700
> Gil de Ferran #8              468     550     445     550     500     600
> Greg Moore #99                452     550     464     500     500     600
> Bobby Rahal #18               455     550     405     550     500     600
> Robby Gordon #5               443     500     397     550     600     700
> Alex Zanardi #4               456     550     451     562     500     600
> Mauricio Gugelmin #17         415     500     448     500     500     600
> Stefan Johansson #16          378     525     389     500     700     800
> Raul Boesel #1                418     500     400     550     700     800
> Eddie Lawson #10              383     525     423     500     750     800
> Roberto Moreno #34            434     500     395     525     700     800
> Michael Andretti #6           400     550     432     550     600     700
> Bryan Herta #28               430     500     389     525     700     800
> Hiro Matsushita #19           374     500     413     550     750     800
> Emerson Fittipaldi #9         406     550     373     525     700     800
> Adrian Fernandez #32          406     550     416     500     600     700
> Paul Tracy #3                 414     550     453     550     600     700
> Marco Greco #7                375     525     332     550     800     900
> Scott Goodyear #15            389     550     332     550     750     800
> Carlos Guerrero #22           380     525     388     500     700     800
> Juan Manuel Fangio II #36     371     525     382     500     800     900
> Parker Johnstone #49          438     550     420     550     500     600
> Mark Blundell #18             378     525     332     550     700     800
> Jeff Krosnoff #25             365     500     375     550     800     900

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> **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
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I'd have to disagree with you, Michael, on a couple of your numbers.  I don't
think you've given enough credit to a couple of proven winners (Al Jr., Tracy,
and a real up and comer, Greg Moore).  Tracy had Homestead in the bag until he
fried his ***..the Penske team seems to be suffering some mechanical problems
at the moment.  And I'm convinced Moore is the next Villeneuve..the paint job
isn't the only thing they have in common... :)

IMHO..I think we'll see a few different faces on the podium at Long Beach...and
a few other tracks, too...

--
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel..


       Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

Michael E. Carv

ICR2: 1996 drivers2.txt data

by Michael E. Carv » Fri, 12 Apr 1996 04:00:00

: I'd have to disagree with you, Michael, on a couple of your numbers.  I don't
: think you've given enough credit to a couple of proven winners (Al Jr., Tracy,
: and a real up and comer, Greg Moore).  Tracy had Homestead in the bag until he
: fried his ***..the Penske team seems to be suffering some mechanical problems
: at the moment.  And I'm convinced Moore is the next Villeneuve..the paint job
: isn't the only thing they have in common... :)

: IMHO..I think we'll see a few different faces on the podium at Long Beach...and
: a few other tracks, too...

Well, the figures are only based on the results of 3 races.  I tried to
set the drivers up as to how they have performed this year.  As the year
progresses the numbers will be better.  Working within these
limitations, I think that if you race against the AI with these numbers
the end results will be similar to the real ones.  Now if I had the time
to sit down and map out how everyone did for every lap of the races they
ran so far, I would have real accurate results.

I tried to balance out the road drivers vs. the oval boys.  I took a
look at their best performance (either qualifying or finishing) for the
good numbers.  I used the lower of the 2 numbers for their lower
numbers.  I have since gone back and revised the qualifying numbers and
will post them tomorrow.  

It sounds like you have "looked" at the numbers, but have you raced
against them?

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**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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jn..

ICR2: 1996 drivers2.txt data

by jn.. » Mon, 15 Apr 1996 04:00:00

The drivers2.txt I use works fine. IMO traction has the biggest effect on
racing speed. My drivers2.txt is here:

DRIVER          POWER           TRACTION        DRAG            AGGRESSION
#1 Boesel       325-500         350-500         500-700         500-600
#2 Unser Jr.    350-525         425-550         500-600         700-800
#3 Tracy        375-562         425-550         500-600         900-999
#4 Zanardi      350-562         350-525         500-600         500-600
#5 Gordon       375-562         425-550         500-600         900-999
#6 Andretti     375-550         425-550         500-600         900-999
#8 de Ferran    400-562         425-550         500-600         700-800
#9 E Fittip.    325-525         350-500         500-700         500-600
#10 Lawson      200-400         250-400         700-900          50-100
#11 C Fittip.   350-525         375-525         500-600         700-800
#12 Vasser      400-562         450-550         500-600         700-800
#16 Johansson   225-475         250-475         500-700         500-600
#17 Gugelmin    325-500         375-525         500-600         500-600
#18 Rahal       375-525         425-525         500-600         500-600
#19 Matsushita  200-400         250-400         700-999          50 100
#20 Pruett      375-550         450-550         500-600         500-600
#22 Guerrero    200-400         250-400         700-900          50-100
#25 Krosnoff    200-400         250-400         700-999          50-100
#31 Ribeiro     350-550         375-550         500-600         500-600
#32 Fernandez   325-500         350-525         500-600         500-600
#99 Moore       400-562         450-550         500-600         900-999
#34 Moreno      200-450         250-475         500-900         500-600
#36 Fangio      200-400         175-300         800-999          50-100
#49 Johnstone   350-525         350-525         500-600         250-475
#21 Blundell    325-500         325-500         500-700         500-600
#15 Goodyear    325-500         350-525         500-600         500-600
#7 Greco        200-400         250-400         700-900          50-100

The numbers aren't very accurate with backmarkers but they work well.
Slowest cars are 10-15 laps down on one mile ovals and 3-4 laps on street
circuits. Any comments?


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