rec.autos.simulators

> Don

> > Well, I never thought I'd pay close to $500 for a video card, but I'm
> buying
> > myself a nice christmas present this year.

> > I've looked them all over, and I decided the ATI Radeon 9800 XT is what
I
> > will get.

> > There are three basic reasons:

> > 1.  I want a 256MB card.  I think it's time.
> > 2.  nVidia's current offerings do NOT impress me one bit.
> > 3.  I considered the 9800 Pro, which in it's 128MB configuration is much
> > cheaper at $299 or so, but I want 256MB of RAM this time and the 256MB
> > versions of the 9800 pro are over $400.  Might as well just go for the
XT
> !

> > So, I need a utility that will COMPLETELY scrub the nVidia drivers from
my
> > system.  I know there was once one that ran only under Win9x, but what
> about
> > Windows XP ?

> > Thanks :)

> > -Larry

> > Well, I never thought I'd pay close to $500 for a video card, but I'm
> buying
> > myself a nice christmas present this year.

> > I've looked them all over, and I decided the ATI Radeon 9800 XT is what
I
> > will get.

> > There are three basic reasons:

> > 1.  I want a 256MB card.  I think it's time.
> > 2.  nVidia's current offerings do NOT impress me one bit.
> > 3.  I considered the 9800 Pro, which in it's 128MB configuration is much
> > cheaper at $299 or so, but I want 256MB of RAM this time and the 256MB
> > versions of the 9800 pro are over $400.  Might as well just go for the
XT
> !

> > So, I need a utility that will COMPLETELY scrub the nVidia drivers from
my
> > system.

> Reinstall windows. it's NEVER a bad idea - especially when doing a move
like
> that.

> If you're prepared to spend $400+ on a graphics card, then you should be
> prepared to spend an hour reinstalling windows to set it up properly.

> Doug

> One oddity.  It requires the Microsoft .Net framework to be installed.
> I
> sure hope that doesn't catch on as a requirement!

> -Larry

> Jeez larry Im suprised you ever upgraded your 8088 based dos 3.1 box.

> New technology occasionlly works as advertised.  I dont have the details
> on the don net framework but you WILL use it.  Maybe not today or
> tommorow but eventually.  ALl new MS products are based on this
> technology so be prepared.

> Mitch

> > I found Detonator R.I.P which seems to have done the job.

> > One oddity.  It requires the Microsoft .Net framework to be installed.
> > I
> > sure hope that doesn't catch on as a requirement!

> > -Larry

> Jeez larry Im suprised you ever upgraded your 8088 based dos 3.1 box.

> New technology occasionlly works as advertised.  I dont have the details
> on the don net framework but you WILL use it.  Maybe not today or
> tommorow but eventually.  ALl new MS products are based on this
> technology so be prepared.

> Mitch

> > I found Detonator R.I.P which seems to have done the job.

> > One oddity.  It requires the Microsoft .Net framework to be installed.
> > I
> > sure hope that doesn't catch on as a requirement!

> > -Larry

> > Jeez larry Im suprised you ever upgraded your 8088 based dos 3.1 box.

> > New technology occasionlly works as advertised.  I dont have the details
> > on the don net framework but you WILL use it.  Maybe not today or
> > tommorow but eventually.  ALl new MS products are based on this
> > technology so be prepared.

> > Mitch

> > > I found Detonator R.I.P which seems to have done the job.

> > > One oddity.  It requires the Microsoft .Net framework to be installed.
> > > I
> > > sure hope that doesn't catch on as a requirement!

> > > -Larry

> 1.  RUNTIME Files.
> 2.  PLATFORM specific.

> -Larry

> > Lots of newly developed software will require .Net framework.  Its
nothing
> > more than the underline runtime system for new MS developed software,
not
> > sure why people have such issue with it.  I think most think its some
sort
> > of internet based link to MS.  Its no different than the runtime files
> other
> > programs installed in the past, and if anything it easies installs as
once
> > the framework is in place, new apps are much easier to be installed.  So
> its
> > not an oddity at all, any software developed with Visual Studio is going
> to
> > require the framework for it to run.

> > > Jeez larry Im suprised you ever upgraded your 8088 based dos 3.1 box.

> > > New technology occasionlly works as advertised.  I dont have the
details
> > > on the don net framework but you WILL use it.  Maybe not today or
> > > tommorow but eventually.  ALl new MS products are based on this
> > > technology so be prepared.

> > > Mitch

> > > > I found Detonator R.I.P which seems to have done the job.

> > > > One oddity.  It requires the Microsoft .Net framework to be
installed.
> > > > I
> > > > sure hope that doesn't catch on as a requirement!

> > > > -Larry

> Now they need a 'framework' that adds 25-50MB overhead to a program that
> does nothing more that write "Hello World" on the screen.

> But that's just me :)  Maybe it's just part of life with a GUI.  At least
> the _Windows_ GUI.

> And remember, every time something is written with a platform-specific
> framework, that's one more stab in the back of cross-platform.  But I'm
sure
> that NEVER crossed Microsoft's mind :)

> -Larry

> > Jeez larry Im suprised you ever upgraded your 8088 based dos 3.1 box.

> > New technology occasionlly works as advertised.  I dont have the details
> > on the don net framework but you WILL use it.  Maybe not today or
> > tommorow but eventually.  ALl new MS products are based on this
> > technology so be prepared.

> > Mitch

> > > I found Detonator R.I.P which seems to have done the job.

> > > One oddity.  It requires the Microsoft .Net framework to be installed.
> > > I
> > > sure hope that doesn't catch on as a requirement!

> > > -Larry

> Has nothing to do with not knowing how to code and more to do with using
the
> tools at hand.  The framework handles much of the low level code that
would
> take months to recreate.  Developers can focus on solving business/ end
user
> needs as opposed to writing low level code to handle every hardware event.

> > My problem is that programmers have forgotten how to be programmers, and
> > WRITE CODE!

> > Now they need a 'framework' that adds 25-50MB overhead to a program that
> > does nothing more that write "Hello World" on the screen.

> > But that's just me :)  Maybe it's just part of life with a GUI.  At
least
> > the _Windows_ GUI.

> > And remember, every time something is written with a platform-specific
> > framework, that's one more stab in the back of cross-platform.  But I'm
> sure
> > that NEVER crossed Microsoft's mind :)

> > -Larry

> > > Jeez larry Im suprised you ever upgraded your 8088 based dos 3.1 box.

> > > New technology occasionlly works as advertised.  I dont have the
details
> > > on the don net framework but you WILL use it.  Maybe not today or
> > > tommorow but eventually.  ALl new MS products are based on this
> > > technology so be prepared.

> > > Mitch

> > > > I found Detonator R.I.P which seems to have done the job.

> > > > One oddity.  It requires the Microsoft .Net framework to be
installed.
> > > > I
> > > > sure hope that doesn't catch on as a requirement!

> > > > -Larry