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  values programmed into them for the simulation?

   For some time, I had been driving the Jean Alesi  FERRARI and last
night decided to try one of the BENNETON cars for a change in scenery
so to speak.

   What I found really surprised me.  I needed to change the
suspension settings and wing angles a bit, as well as the gearing,
because I found the BENNETON was prone to wild oversteer with the
FERRARI settings.

   Once I set down and worked out the NEW settings for the BENNETON, I
found I was going faster than the ferrari was at the height of the
performance curve, and as the fuel and laps ran down, I was averaging
a second to second and a half per lap faster than the FERRARI ever
did!

That was at MONZA ---------------- so I decided to try Monaco, and to
my surprise, I found the very same thing -------------------- this
time I didn't have to change any of the settings, but the BENNETON was
less prone to understeer than the FERRARI, and it immediately lapped
at the one minute twenty to one minute twenty one lap times whereas
the FERRARI was prone to around two seconds per lap slower with the
same amount of fuel in the tank and laps on the tires.

   Has anyone else experienced this?  Does anyone know if this is
programmed to do this --- or is it I just seem to like looking at a
"pretty blue" cowling rather than a red one?        :-)

     Help appreciated here!

       Doug

Very unlikely. All editors and all previous experiences from drivers indicate
that the player's car always receives the same performance characteristics, no
matter what team you choose.

Probably imagination or you overlooked some changes in settings  :-)

JoH
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Doug,

All the drivers and all the cars behave differently.

This was one of the major changes from F1GP to GP2.  Performance data was
compiled from the various sources and programmed into the game so Hill
drivers like Hill and Schumacher drives live Schumacher.
When one adds one of these "thord party" addon's to change the look of the
cars it cannot change the fact that the 1994 Williams car is still driving
"almost" as such even though it looks different.  Sadly "almost" means that
these addon's do "break" the program as it doesn't run as efficently as it
once did. :(

Regards,
Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe

You know what? I think you're about as real as those Pink Elephants you hear
people talking about  :-)

No hair on my head believes that you are from Microprose!

JoH
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Jo Helsen schreef:

Richard Hasselt

 Murray: "Damon, I told visitors at home that you were simply speaking to
Michael [Schumacher] and there is not the bitter feud between the two of you."
Damon: "Not surprisingly Murray, you got it wrong."

Jo,

If you don't beleive I am at MicroProse-Europe Customer Services try calling
us one day on the telephone.
We can then tell you directly the answer to any of your questions.
Better to know than to fan the factually incorrect comments the others leave
in the newsgroups.

Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe

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Well, if that is the case, why not issue an official media announcement
clarifying the position?
There are innumerable *** magazines out there and I'm sure that the
editors of every one would welcome your statement.
So how about it, Mr. Rich?

Bruce,

When the first illegal editors started to appear for GP2 we in Customer
Services told by our QA people who were told by Geoff that all functions of
GP2 are NOT seperate.. Editing the car designed will effect sound or
performace, editing the sounds affect the AI, etc etc.  Each part of GP2 was
written in a special way to check the validity of the other parts.  This is
as I have said the information we were presented with.

All MicroProse products have licence aggreements which have now been tighted
to prevent any future editors on future games which would result in legal
charges.  The programs are our copyright and the copyright of the authors
(in the case of GP2 - Geoff Crammond) and not subject to disassembling by
anyone without permission.

Regards,
Mark Rich/MicroProse-Europe

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Z.

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Pat Dotson
IMPACT Motorsports

Slow down, Zonk.

There WAS a dialog going on here -- a bit confusing perhaps, but a dialog
nonetheless.  I hope we don't start call names here.

Regards,

Kurt

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UK.

For me using an editor like GP2 edit gives a lot more fun to GP2.
I like it, being able to change whatever i want.

Richard Hasselt

"A lot of people think racing is about going fast. But it's not. It's about
going just slow enough to stay on the track."

And what,s most important for me being able to update the game to this 1998
season.
I mean how much fun is it to drive 1994 (!) cars of such poor quality when
you can drive the 1998 cars which look almost perfect. and don't forget the
helmets.

Richard Hasselt

"A lot of people think racing is about going fast. But it's not. It's about
going just slow enough to stay on the track."

I'd just like clairification from both Mark, and The Bod's at MPS exactly what
and who Mark is representing in these statements.

As MPS are more than well aware, the majority- not saying all, of the
performance based editors are legal to the letter of the law.

I personally do work in the  industry, but as this is a personal post, i'm not
about to say who for. Quite simply i don't believe any person in a place of
responsibility would make the statements that Mark has made, except in the
worst case of bad judgement.

Therefore, i am left with no option to conclude that Mark has seriosuly
overstepped his (mark?), and i would like clarification on who's views the
previous post by mark represent.

Z.