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Best Rally SIM?

David Piri

Best Rally SIM?

by David Piri » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 01:23:03

Hi Folks,
I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the best rally sim out
there?
TIA
David

Customer: "I'm running Windows98?."
Tech Support: "Yes."
Customer: "My computer isn't working now."
Tech Support: "Yes, you said that."

shpanke

Best Rally SIM?

by shpanke » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 03:23:41

Rallisport Challenge on the Xbox.


Dan Leac

Best Rally SIM?

by Dan Leac » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 03:32:12

Rally trophy..... by miles


Steve Smit

Best Rally SIM?

by Steve Smit » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:18:31

I still like Rally Championship.  The physics model is infinitely tweakable,
the graphics don't look dated (2 years on), the stages are long enuf to be
believable, even the multiplayer works.  If only it didn't play games with
the numbers (stats)....

--Steve


> Rally trophy..... by miles



> > Hi Folks,
> > I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the best rally sim out
> > there?
> > TIA
> > David

> > Customer: "I'm running Windows98?."
> > Tech Support: "Yes."
> > Customer: "My computer isn't working now."
> > Tech Support: "Yes, you said that."

Stuart Becktel

Best Rally SIM?

by Stuart Becktel » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 07:37:06

Haha funny

> Rallisport Challenge on the Xbox.



> > Hi Folks,
> > I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the best rally sim out
> > there?
> > TIA
> > David

> > Customer: "I'm running Windows98?."
> > Tech Support: "Yes."
> > Customer: "My computer isn't working now."
> > Tech Support: "Yes, you said that."

Tim Mise

Best Rally SIM?

by Tim Mise » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:19:33

Rally Trophy is more difficult but I don't thing it's very realistic.  To
me, most of the rear wheel drive cars are just undrivable.  No matter how
light on the throttle you are, the cars will spin out constantly!

-Tim


> Rally trophy..... by miles



> > Hi Folks,
> > I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the best rally sim out
> > there?
> > TIA
> > David

> > Customer: "I'm running Windows98?."
> > Tech Support: "Yes."
> > Customer: "My computer isn't working now."
> > Tech Support: "Yes, you said that."

Steve Smit

Best Rally SIM?

by Steve Smit » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:31:59

Tim,

I really don't think it's a physics prob, I think it's a controller prob.
Both RT and F12K1 are crippled by lousy calibration routines, making the
games far more difficult than they need to be.  (Even Rally C'ship is
*almost* unplayable 'cuz of twitchy controls.)  By contrast, Papy's calib
routines have been flawless since IndyCar Racing (as is their replay
interface).  Why they don't just license this clear thinking out and sit
back to count their money is beyond me....

--Steve


> Rally Trophy is more difficult but I don't thing it's very realistic.  To
> me, most of the rear wheel drive cars are just undrivable.  No matter how
> light on the throttle you are, the cars will spin out constantly!

> -Tim



> > Rally trophy..... by miles



> > > Hi Folks,
> > > I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the best rally sim out
> > > there?
> > > TIA
> > > David

> > > Customer: "I'm running Windows98?."
> > > Tech Support: "Yes."
> > > Customer: "My computer isn't working now."
> > > Tech Support: "Yes, you said that."

DAVID J ROBINSO

Best Rally SIM?

by DAVID J ROBINSO » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:49:06


That has been the worst thing about games for me. After getting so pampered
with GPL and how it kept my attention and not having to constantly***
with it to get the game to work properly, I am just flat mad at companies
who cannot get a game to work with a simple controller like the TSW stock.
Its real simple since its either a 2 or 4 axis controller( if you have split
axis with the clutch).  RT has been a fun game, but things get old when you
have to open up files and start tweaking them.  Its one reason Rally Champ
is not on my drive anymore. I got real tired of searching for the rright
feel to get rid of that stupid sticky grass.  So far I am reasonably happy
with RT, tho I would really be happier if Split Axis worked as well as it
did in the Papy games I have.

Dave

lane

Best Rally SIM?

by lane » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:32:57



Split axis seems to work ok here in RT. I just picked it up tonight. I set
my wheel to combined pedals in my MS profiling software and I was really
frustrated in RT because I had no braking power, set my wheel to split axis
and then my brakes worked fine. I can drive the Minicooper OK, but the other
cars don't feel so great. My biggest gripe is that since applying the patch
I get the below error when exiting the game and there seems to be a memory
leak or something else going on in this game. I kept switching to different
cars and I was getting really bad frame rates and stuttering, if I stick
with the Minicooper then the frame rate is good. Anyone else get the below
error when exiting RT?

RALLYTROPHY caused an invalid page fault in
module KERNEL32.DLL at 0187:bff9d709.
Registers:
EAX=c002f8d0 CS=0187 EIP=bff9d709 EFLGS=00010216
EBX=07d7ffbc SS=018f ESP=07c7fe14 EBP=07c800b0
ECX=00000000 DS=018f ESI=00000000 FS=0eb7
EDX=bff76859 ES=018f EDI=bff79050 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
53 8b 15 dc 9c fc bf 56 89 4d e4 57 89 4d dc 89
Stack dump:

Steve Smit

Best Rally SIM?

by Steve Smit » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 22:14:41

David,

DON'T GIVE UP!  There's a tiny (500K; I'll send it to you if you email me)
pgm. called Ralwiz that you use as a launcher for Rally Championship: you
choose values (from 50 to 150%) for traction on not only the grass, but also
ice, snow, tarmac, and gravel, as well as for damage, gravity, engine, and
brake power.

You also use it to allow you to save the game between stages, not run out of
time, skip the .avi at launch, and lose the annoying tendency to get stuck
in neutral after a spin...or a shunt.

I also use DXTweak to cut the deadzone from the default 5% to zero (which
helps other games, like GPL, as well) to soften the twitchy steering.

That, the 5.30 patch, and a couple of "after-market" car mods (like the
superfast Renault Clio), you got yerself a RALLY sim!

--Steve





> > Tim,

> > I really don't think it's a physics prob, I think it's a controller
prob.
> > Both RT and F12K1 are crippled by lousy calibration routines, making the
> > games far more difficult than they need to be.  (Even Rally C'ship is
> > *almost* unplayable 'cuz of twitchy controls.)  By contrast, Papy's
calib
> > routines have been flawless since IndyCar Racing (as is their replay
> > interface).  Why they don't just license this clear thinking out and sit
> > back to count their money is beyond me....

> > --Steve

> That has been the worst thing about games for me. After getting so
pampered
> with GPL and how it kept my attention and not having to constantly***
> with it to get the game to work properly, I am just flat mad at companies
> who cannot get a game to work with a simple controller like the TSW stock.
> Its real simple since its either a 2 or 4 axis controller( if you have
split
> axis with the clutch).  RT has been a fun game, but things get old when
you
> have to open up files and start tweaking them.  Its one reason Rally Champ
> is not on my drive anymore. I got real tired of searching for the rright
> feel to get rid of that stupid sticky grass.  So far I am reasonably happy
> with RT, tho I would really be happier if Split Axis worked as well as it
> did in the Papy games I have.

> Dave

Todd Walke

Best Rally SIM?

by Todd Walke » Fri, 15 Mar 2002 01:11:24



Here is the link if that's easier:

http://www.rally2000.racesim.net/ralwiz.html

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Olly Greenfiel

Best Rally SIM?

by Olly Greenfiel » Sat, 16 Mar 2002 00:09:26

I like Rally Masters "feel" and control best of all. Rally Trophy is also
excellent, but it has some control problems which seem not to have been
fixed by the patch. When I let off of the accelerator before a turn the car
momentarily loses steering input. Also, randomly the game will lose
accelerator input , and the car will stop accelerating unless I let up off
of the accelerator and then reapply it. As for Mobil 1 Rally , it has
excellent graphics and realistic stages, but the physics model is not up to
snuff.


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