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N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

SKnarr4

N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

by SKnarr4 » Thu, 24 May 2001 00:57:54

My friend has a:

AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1333 MHz, 266 MHz bus
ASUS A7M266 - Chipset AMD761 + VIA 686B
256 Mb of Ram
Geforce 2 Ultra (Elsa)
Running Windows 98SE

He has tried a host of various drivers for the vid card.
His problem is with Nascar 4 by Papyrus.

The game loads and seems to play fine, but there is a slight stuttering
effect when entering the turns. It is not bad, but noticeable to the point
of annoying. Framerate seems unaffected.

Wncpu reports that the Agp 2.0 is disabled ??????? All bios settings seem to
be correct IMHO.

Any suggestions, clues what might give him this stuttering?

TIA,

Scott

Tom Pabs

N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

by Tom Pabs » Thu, 24 May 2001 01:41:56

SK...

Here's what he should do:

1.  Reinstall the AMD 761 AGP chipset drivers.
2.  Set the BIOS to 4x AGP.
3.  Make all the other tweaks and settings as outlined below.
4.  Go to the Windows98SE "Virtual Memory" manager.....and de-select
allowing Windows to manage "Virtual Memory"....follow the "Virtual Memory"
settings below.

If he does all this.....he'll have the highest FPS, best picture/graphics
quality......his "system" can produce.  And, set the VM as indicated...the
"frame stutter" will end.

Tom

PS:  I'm assuming he has done the "basics"...and made sure that no major
components are sharing IRQ's???

**************GeForce 2 (MX, GTS, ULTRA) and GeForce 3 -  "Tweaks and
Settings" for N4****************

Desktop Color:  Set to 16-bit color for N4 and all games.

DirectX: Make sure you are using a DX 8.0 compatible driver (Nvidia Ref
drivers versions 7.0 or higher, 12.0 or higher for GF3 cards)

For N4:  Run OpenGL (not D3D) in "XXXX"x16 (you must use a screen res
compatible with your CPU speed and ram).

Monitor:  Make sure you have downloaded the latest drivers for your
monitor...DO NOT USE "Plug and Play" Monitor drivers!  Set your refresh rate
at the highest setting you are allowed for your monitor at the specific
screen res you want to run N4 at.

Advanced Settings Tab For OpenGL:
           In The Scroll Down Box:
                 Enable Buffer Region Extension (checked)
                Allow the dual planes extension to us local video memory
(checked)
                Use fast linear-mipmap-linear filtering (checked)
                ****all others are unchecked****

            Default Color Depth for Textures:  Always Use 16 bpp
            Buffer Flipping Mode:  Use page flip
            Vertical sync: Always off
            Full Scene Antialiasing Method: Always off (try 2x or Quincunx
for GF3)

            Use up to [62] MB of system memory for textures in PCI mode

Mother Board BIOS Settings:
            Video BIOS Shadow = "Disabled"
            Video BIOS Cache = "Disabled"
            Palette Snoop = "Disabled"
            AGP Turbo (or x4) = "Enabled" (if your mobo supports
it....disabled or 2x or 1x if it does not)
            PnP Aware OS = "Yes"
            AGP Aperture Size = 128 mb (only if you have 128 mb or
more...which you should)
            Resources Controlled by = "Auto"
            Assign IRQ to VGA = "Yes"

Windows Virtual Memory Settings:
            1. Go to the Windows Virtual Memory settings box (right click
"My Computer" -select- "Properties" - select- "Performance Tab" -select-
"Virtual Memory" button on lower right side of box.
            2.  Select "Let me specify my own Virtual Memory settings."
bullet.
            3.  Set the Minimum and Maximum to the same value....this is
very important! [This will keep the swap file from being resized all the
time by Windows.]
            4.  Set the value at something between 2x and 4x your physical
RAM memory (remember the Value is entered in KB, not MB).  Example: With 128
MB ram, at 2.5xRAM = 320 MB (entered as: 3200 KB in the box).
            5.  Restart your computer as Windows requests.
            6.  Go back and make sure the settings you made are still
there....and check this regularly.  Windows has a *** habit of deleting
this stuff all the time....and taking back over the management of VM.  I've
never been able to figure out a "pattern" for when Windows does this....I
just know that half the time....when I check this.....Windows has taken back
control of VM and I have to reset it to the above settings.

***DOING THIS WILL SOLVE THE N4 FRAME STUTTER......assuming you have no
other "issues" with IRQ sharing and so forth.  I also found this solves the
same problem in GPL...when using the high-res***pits and race tracks.

Jagg

N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

by Jagg » Thu, 24 May 2001 01:33:04



Did he install the AMD miniport driver? AGP 2.0 should not say
disabled. I have the AMD 760 chipset and have no problems with N4.
What is the AGP aperture set to in the bios? Try 64mb. I'm using
Nvidia 11.01 drivers and directx 8.1.

--
eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format
http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

E.V.Phelp

N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

by E.V.Phelp » Thu, 24 May 2001 04:42:29

erm ,do you put the swap file on a diferent partition to windows?i think
you'lll find that setting the min and max to the same setting and move  the
swapfile to a seperate partition ,preferably at the front thereof,you will
eliminate this problem...

sincerely
evphelps

ps.it works for me.

Stephen Smit

N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

by Stephen Smit » Thu, 24 May 2001 04:59:22

E.V.,

No need to move the SF to a sepArate partition; just use a defrag util (like
Norton) to move it to the front of yer HD.

--Steve Smith


Slic

N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

by Slic » Thu, 24 May 2001 05:56:50

So moving it to another disk drive what the best option?

--

Oliver >xp<


Slic

N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

by Slic » Thu, 24 May 2001 06:00:39

Exuse my typing...
Moving it to another drive would be the best option...?

--

Oliver >xp<


> So moving it to another disk drive what the best option?

> --

> Oliver >xp<



> > erm ,do you put the swap file on a diferent partition to windows?i think
> > you'lll find that setting the min and max to the same setting and move
> the
> > swapfile to a seperate partition ,preferably at the front thereof,you
will
> > eliminate this problem...

> > sincerely
> > evphelps

> > ps.it works for me.

Scott Knar

N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

by Scott Knar » Thu, 24 May 2001 07:00:31

Thanks Tom,

Your suggestions helped point out that the AMD AGP miniport driver was
corrupt. Reinstall of this driver did the trick, also some of your
suggestions helped frame rate.

Thanks,

Scott


Tim_

N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

by Tim_ » Thu, 24 May 2001 12:27:09

Do you have side band addressing enabled
in the bios? Turned it off and the stuttering
went away.
My System: Geforce 2 Ultra (herc)
 a7v a 1333 256 ram sblive bla bla bla

Tim Yuhasz

Tim

N4 - AMD - Geforce 2 Ultra ?

by Tim » Fri, 25 May 2001 02:57:35

 Actually it was Fast writes should be disabled

Tim



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