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N4 Geforce 3 SLOWER Than GF2 Ultra Help

Morris Jone

N4 Geforce 3 SLOWER Than GF2 Ultra Help

by Morris Jone » Fri, 25 May 2001 03:56:21

just replace my Geforce 2 ultra with the Asus V8200 Deluxe, my N4 frame
rates are much worse than before what gives?

    P4 1.5ghz
   128 PC800 RDRAM
    Asus V8200 Deluxe Geforce 3
     Asus 12.10 drivers
    SB live

Eric Busc

N4 Geforce 3 SLOWER Than GF2 Ultra Help

by Eric Busc » Fri, 25 May 2001 04:11:17

First thing to do would be to check your OpenGL v-sync setting.  Everytime
you install new Nvidia drivers it defaults to being enabled again.

Eric


Bradd

N4 Geforce 3 SLOWER Than GF2 Ultra Help

by Bradd » Fri, 25 May 2001 04:16:51

Morris,

I went from a GF2 64mb to a GF3 and say my opengl frame rates increase
greatly.  Now I can run 1600x1200 full field and push 50fps

When you changed cards did you: (I assume you are running Win98SE)

(1) Boot to safe mode and make sure you are using only a VGA adapter.
Remove any display adapter and just install a basic vga adapter

(2) Boot normally and install the drivers (I am using 12.40) make sure that
if you are running in OPENGL modem that V-SYNC is turned off (in the
advanced options tab)

(3) Also reconfigure the graphics adapter in N4

I guess many other people will have suggestions so good luck.

Brad


Morris Jone

N4 Geforce 3 SLOWER Than GF2 Ultra Help

by Morris Jone » Fri, 25 May 2001 04:41:43

Thanks guys,

I set it to VGA and uninstalled the old GF2Ultra drivers.

I was running D3d before 1600x1200 x16 with 4x AA and running around 30fps
and it looked great, now I have tried the same settings and fps down to
16fps.  I tried the opengl and made sure vsync was off only 2x AA,  fps
around 30 in a pack and 40 when the cars spread out but it just does not
look as good to me.
Guess, I'll just keep playing around with it, something has to be wrong.

Thanks


Eric Busc

N4 Geforce 3 SLOWER Than GF2 Ultra Help

by Eric Busc » Fri, 25 May 2001 04:48:19

If you're using D3D, make sure to pick the (TnL HAL) labeled device in the
second step of the graphics config program.

Eric


Morris Jone

N4 Geforce 3 SLOWER Than GF2 Ultra Help

by Morris Jone » Fri, 25 May 2001 05:38:52

Thanks again Eric, I tried that too...
I just can't figure it out, why would they go down from what they were
before w/ the G2?  I did not think they would go up much but never did I
think they would go down?

Thanks again
Morris

> If you're using D3D, make sure to pick the (TnL HAL) labeled device in the
> second step of the graphics config program.

> Eric



> > Thanks guys,

> > I set it to VGA and uninstalled the old GF2Ultra drivers.

> > I was running D3d before 1600x1200 x16 with 4x AA and running around
30fps
> > and it looked great, now I have tried the same settings and fps down to
> > 16fps.  I tried the opengl and made sure vsync was off only 2x AA,  fps
> > around 30 in a pack and 40 when the cars spread out but it just does not
> > look as good to me.
> > Guess, I'll just keep playing around with it, something has to be wrong.

Tim Mise

N4 Geforce 3 SLOWER Than GF2 Ultra Help

by Tim Mise » Fri, 25 May 2001 07:58:25

Morris, check out the GF3 review at SimHQ where they benchmark the GF3 with
some simulations (instead of just Q3A and UT).  Seems the GF2Ultra is faster
in some games.

http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/hardware/reviews/gf3/index.shtml

-Tim


> Thanks again Eric, I tried that too...
> I just can't figure it out, why would they go down from what they were
> before w/ the G2?  I did not think they would go up much but never did I
> think they would go down?

> Thanks again
> Morris


> > If you're using D3D, make sure to pick the (TnL HAL) labeled device in
the
> > second step of the graphics config program.

> > Eric



> > > Thanks guys,

> > > I set it to VGA and uninstalled the old GF2Ultra drivers.

> > > I was running D3d before 1600x1200 x16 with 4x AA and running around
> 30fps
> > > and it looked great, now I have tried the same settings and fps down
to
> > > 16fps.  I tried the opengl and made sure vsync was off only 2x AA,
fps
> > > around 30 in a pack and 40 when the cars spread out but it just does
not
> > > look as good to me.
> > > Guess, I'll just keep playing around with it, something has to be
wrong.

Tom Pabs

N4 Geforce 3 SLOWER Than GF2 Ultra Help

by Tom Pabs » Sat, 26 May 2001 02:51:03

Morris....see my "post" above.

The GF3 may be "jiggered" enough to run better than your GF2 (assuming it
was not an ULTRA) 64mb......but you'll have no luck running it in D3D.  Run
OpenGL.....and make sure visync is "disabled" after the new driver install.
Also, do not use any FSAA.......it kills your FPS...and its a crappy picture
(graphics-wise) anyway until Anistropic Filtering is enabled (future Nvidia
drivers probably).

Tom

Tim

N4 Geforce 3 SLOWER Than GF2 Ultra Help

by Tim » Sat, 26 May 2001 08:15:22

antistropic is in the 650 drivers
still what i use and theyre fine



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