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by **J.Maxwel** » Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I have been reading every review and comparison I can find today on FF
wheels. I am primarily focusing on reviews of the Logitech FF wheel. I
think it's safe to say that the consensus is the pedals leave a bit to be
desired. Having never actually seen this wheel combo in person, are you
able to use a different set of pedals with this wheel? Right now I use the
T2 with CH Pedals, and have absolutely loved these pedals for almost 4 years
now and I am reluctant to part with them.

by **Robert Grave** » Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better than with
the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals combo is
better.

by **J.Maxwel** » Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Yeah, I forgot to mention that I modified my CH Pedals so that they do the
same thing the T2 pedals do. Accelerate is joystick1 y-axis up and brake is
joystick1 y-axis down, so they work with every driving game I have tried
them on so far. With them being setup this way, they should still work with
the LWFF right?

-Jeff

> J.
> I've used, in turn, Logitech pedals, T2 pedals, CH Propedals and back
to
> Logitech pedals with my LWFF wheel. After using the modified (stiffer
> springs) Logi pedals, both of the others seemed to have TOO much travel,
> just personal preference I guess. Anyhoo, the short answer is, yes you can
> use other pedals with the LWFF wheel, but this may only be with GPL, which
> is the ONLY application on my P.C.

> > I have been reading every review and comparison I can find today on FF
> > wheels. I am primarily focusing on reviews of the Logitech FF wheel. I
> > think it's safe to say that the consensus is the pedals leave a bit to
be
> > desired. Having never actually seen this wheel combo in person, are you
> > able to use a different set of pedals with this wheel? Right now I use
> the
> > T2 with CH Pedals, and have absolutely loved these pedals for almost 4
> years
> > now and I am reluctant to part with them.

by **Ben Colema** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>I have been reading every review and comparison I can find today on FF
>wheels. I am primarily focusing on reviews of the Logitech FF wheel. I
>think it's safe to say that the consensus is the pedals leave a bit to be
>desired. Having never actually seen this wheel combo in person, are you
>able to use a different set of pedals with this wheel?

Shouldn't be a problem.

Make sure you clean off the sticky bits!

Ben

by **Phillip Arche** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

J.
I've used, in turn, Logitech pedals, T2 pedals, CH Propedals and back to
Logitech pedals with my LWFF wheel. After using the modified (stiffer
springs) Logi pedals, both of the others seemed to have TOO much travel,
just personal preference I guess. Anyhoo, the short answer is, yes you can
use other pedals with the LWFF wheel, but this may only be with GPL, which
is the ONLY application on my P.C.

by **Andre Warring** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's
perfect.

Andre

by **Andre Warring** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

You can only use the ch pedals and the lwff if you plug your ch in a
gameport and your lwff in an usb port, because gpl recognizes more
gameports. afaik no other game does this.
But if you wire your ch pedals directly to you lwff, you can use it in
all games.
If you think you have too much travel with your ch pedal, you can
allways plug something under your pedal to give it less travel.

Andre

by **schmikl** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Be aware that it does not work in every game.

sandor

by **Chris** » Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the CH
pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my
[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both!

> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's
> perfect.

> Andre

> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better than
with
> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals combo
is
> >better.

by **Andre Warring** » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

You're the first one who doesn't like the CH pedals. Interesting, can
you explain what you don't like about them? I found the CH pedals such
a big improvement over the Logitec pedals, my braking got much more
precise with them.

Andre

On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:19 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter"

>I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the CH
>pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my
>[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both!

>> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's
>> perfect.

>> Andre

>> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better than
>with
>> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals combo
>is
>> >better.

by **Chris** » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I dunno, maybe its the set I got. They seem to not have much more travel,
maybe even less, than the LWFF pedals. Then, I find the "springs" way too
soft. However, they work really well in flight sims though.

> You're the first one who doesn't like the CH pedals. Interesting, can
> you explain what you don't like about them? I found the CH pedals such
> a big improvement over the Logitec pedals, my braking got much more
> precise with them.

> Andre

> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:19 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter"

> >I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the
CH
> >pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my
> >[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both!

> >> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's
> >> perfect.

> >> Andre

> >> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better
than
> >with
> >> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals
combo
> >is
> >> >better.

by **Andre Warring** » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

You really have a weird set of ch pedals then and you should return
them to your store immediately, the ch pedals have much more travel
than the lwff (one guy actually found the ch pedals to have too much
travel). I absolutely don;t find the springs to soft. The original
springs of the lwff are WAY to soft, but you can exchange them for
stiffer springs very easily, that helps a lot.

Andre

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:43:17 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter"

>I dunno, maybe its the set I got. They seem to not have much more travel,
>maybe even less, than the LWFF pedals. Then, I find the "springs" way too
>soft. However, they work really well in flight sims though.

>> You're the first one who doesn't like the CH pedals. Interesting, can
>> you explain what you don't like about them? I found the CH pedals such
>> a big improvement over the Logitec pedals, my braking got much more
>> precise with them.

>> Andre

>> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:19 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter"

>> >I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the
>CH
>> >pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my
>> >[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both!

>> >> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's
>> >> perfect.

>> >> Andre

>> >> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better
>than
>> >with
>> >> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals
>combo
>> >is
>> >> >better.

by **Chris Schlette** » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

<shrugs> Perhaps different batches. But I can definitely tell you a) there
isn't all that much travel in the CH pedals [T2 pedals have far more] and b)
the springs in the CH Pedals are much softer than the LWFF pedals
[especially the brake although by placing the racquetball underneath it it
helps]. Thats just what I've experienced...and nah, I'll keep them for
Falcon4.0. :)

> You really have a weird set of ch pedals then and you should return
> them to your store immediately, the ch pedals have much more travel
> than the lwff (one guy actually found the ch pedals to have too much
> travel). I absolutely don;t find the springs to soft. The original
> springs of the lwff are WAY to soft, but you can exchange them for
> stiffer springs very easily, that helps a lot.

> Andre

> On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:43:17 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter"

> >I dunno, maybe its the set I got. They seem to not have much more
travel,
> >maybe even less, than the LWFF pedals. Then, I find the "springs" way
too
> >soft. However, they work really well in flight sims though.

> >> You're the first one who doesn't like the CH pedals. Interesting, can
> >> you explain what you don't like about them? I found the CH pedals such
> >> a big improvement over the Logitec pedals, my braking got much more
> >> precise with them.

> >> Andre

> >> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:19 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter"

> >> >I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest
the
> >CH
> >> >pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my
> >> >[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both!

> >> >> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF,
it's
> >> >> perfect.

> >> >> Andre

> >> >> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:35:27 -0400, "Robert Gravel"

- Show quoted text -

> >> >> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better
> >than
> >> >with
> >> >> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals
> >combo
> >> >is
> >> >> >better.

by **J.Maxwel** » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I haven't messed with this at all yet, but how do you get "other" pedals to
work with the LWFF? I picked up my LWFF last Friday and don't really mind
the pedals that come with it, but was just wondering out of curiousity.

> I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the CH
> pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my
> [unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both!

> > I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's
> > perfect.

> > Andre

> > >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better than
> with
> > >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals
combo
> is
> > >better.

by **Michael Horto** » Wed, 15 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Chris,
After reading your last post I decided to test what you said seeing as I've
got both sets sitting here at my feet <G> . The brake pedals have what feels
like the same travel but the spring on the Logi brake is way to soft. The
gas pedals have close to the same travel and are close to the same but again
the Logi's is too soft. Also I find the Logitech pedals just aren't
comfortable. I never used pedals period until 2 weeks ago when I bought the
Logitech wheel / CH Products pedal combo (on recommendation of friends and
GPL racers ) so this is not a long time CH Pedal bias here. I still haven't
got the hang of them but I am getting better. It's a big difference going
from the paddles on my old GP1 to the CH Pedals.

--
Thanks
Michael Horton
Webmaster of
http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl/
Home of the F2/F3 Hotlaps

and

http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/html/
HTML for Begineers

> <shrugs> Perhaps different batches. But I can definitely tell you a)
there
> isn't all that much travel in the CH pedals [T2 pedals have far more] and
b)
> the springs in the CH Pedals are much softer than the LWFF pedals
> [especially the brake although by placing the racquetball underneath it it
> helps]. Thats just what I've experienced...and nah, I'll keep them for
> Falcon4.0. :)

> > You really have a weird set of ch pedals then and you should return
> > them to your store immediately, the ch pedals have much more travel
> > than the lwff (one guy actually found the ch pedals to have too much
> > travel). I absolutely don;t find the springs to soft. The original
> > springs of the lwff are WAY to soft, but you can exchange them for
> > stiffer springs very easily, that helps a lot.

> > Andre

> > On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:43:17 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter"

> > >I dunno, maybe its the set I got. They seem to not have much more
> travel,
> > >maybe even less, than the LWFF pedals. Then, I find the "springs" way
> too
> > >soft. However, they work really well in flight sims though.

> > >> You're the first one who doesn't like the CH pedals. Interesting, can
> > >> you explain what you don't like about them? I found the CH pedals
such
> > >> a big improvement over the Logitec pedals, my braking got much more
> > >> precise with them.

> > >> Andre

> > >> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:19 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter"

> > >> >I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest
> the
> > >CH
> > >> >pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer
my
> > >> >[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both!

> > >> >> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF,
> it's
> > >> >> perfect.

> > >> >> Andre

> > >> >> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:35:27 -0400, "Robert Gravel"

> > >> >> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much
better
> > >than
> > >> >with
> > >> >> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH
pedals
> > >combo
> > >> >is
> > >> >> >better.

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