Wow, very well put!!!!
There IS a VERY big difference between VROC and N3...on VROC, many/most
people go by their real names, or at least first names. N3, you get people
like "sUpErBoMb6969", "2fst4u" and "Ivan Amanda Hugandkiss". In VROC,
yelling and fighting among drivers is VERY, VERY rare. 90% of the people
online know that it's really hard to control these cars and, thanks to warp,
***happens. On NASCAR, people try all sorts of moves, and warp is always
really *** since people try to host 30 people on a dialup modem. As a
result, the finishing percentage of a field on N3 is much less than most
fields on VROC.
How about this - maybe not a league but an organization, where you have a
trial set up and if it can be proven that you are at least a decent driver
and level headed they give you a username and password to a new room for
pickup races among quality drivers. And, of course, waive the trial for
people who have at least a few good times on GPL, or one good time at The
Ring =) (I would have to go for the 'few good times' like at Monza, Glen,
and Zandy...)
--
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> Perhaps there is a different caliber of people on VROC... Since GPL takes
> some serious practice and concentration to run well (or even to complete
> consecutive laps without sliding off track <g>), the people on VROC have
> "earned" their ability to be there. With N3, it's easy for even a kid who
> doesn't even have their driver's license yet to race. I think it's a
factor
> of the "cost" to get there. It doesn't take much to jump online with N3
and
> start driving, especially at tracks like Talledega, and this attracts the
> casual racer. But the casual racer won't put the time and practice into
> getting good at GPL, so you won't see too many of them on VROC. So you
are
> left with the serious drivers who've put too much time and effort
practicing
> GPL to blow a race because he couldn't hold his line next to another
driver,
> so they make the effort to race clean. Also, I'm sure there's a sense of
> pride of being able to finish a GPL race, and a sense of accomplishment.
> I'm proud of myself when I finish a race, and even though I may not have
> finished very well, I'm proud that I was able to run wheel-to-wheel with
the
> other cars without wrecking or causing a wreck.
> Now I'm not saying all this to bash N3, because I actually prefer NASCAR
to
> open wheel racing. But I recognize that the physics and the skill
required
> to drive GPL is an order of magnitude higher than that of N3. I do hope
> that N4's GPL caliber physics will also separate the "men from the boys"
and
> keep the childish intentional wrecking, name calling and arguing with N3
or
> whatever arcade mode that N4 might have.
> I know how you feel, as I don't have time to join a league and be ready to
> race at the same time every week. I would like to be able to jump online
> and run a good clean race against other humans of comparable skill level
> from time to time.
> --
> Robert
> > I've been anxiously waiting for N4 for quite a long time like many of
you
> I'm
> > sure. GPL has (and still is) great fun - and most of all the on-line
> community
> > has been a blast to race with as well as to just hang out with on VROC.
> Everyone
> > is friendly and helpful and generally the races are clean. I can't
> remember one
> > incident where someone has been accused of cheating.
> > GPLRank is a great example. It would be very simple for someone to hack
> their
> > player.ini file to move up the standings, but even the slowest
(including
> me)
> > have no problem posting their times honestly to see where they stand.
As
> I look
> > down the list it's great to see all the cool people I've raced with over
> the last
> > year and a half.
> > I hate to generalize, but it seems that the crowd that races N3 is a bit
> > different. ***s find it acceptable to act like children, and
> accusations of
> > cheating are always flying around. Drivers wanting nothing but to take
> others
> > out is more usual than unusual in my non league experienc on WON. Just
so
> you
> > know I'm comparing "apples to apples", I have never raced in a league on
> VROC
> > either.
> > I'm not really sure that I'm looking forward to the on-line experience
> with N4
> > the way I see things today. Why should it be necessary to join a league
> to have
> > fun racing on-line? My schedule is crazy and I've never been able to
work
> out a
> > consistent time that I can get on-line.
> > Here's to hoping that when N4 hits the shelves this fall, some of the
VROC
> crowd
> > will hook up and figure something out in order to keep the level of fun
> (and
> > maturity) with N4 multiplayer at the same level that it's at now with
GPL
> and
> > VROC. Maybe by then I'll finally be forced into working out that
schedule
> so
> > that something like this can work.
> > Just my thoughts. Thanks for listening...
> > --David Cook
