This is how it works in reality; race a lot on super speedways and you get a
GOOD LPI.
Participate in races and on road courses and short tracks and you get a
BAAAAD LPI.
If you race at Bristol or Martinsville or Sears or Watkins Glen you will, by
necessity, be involved in beaucoup incidents. I don't care how prudent you
are. Race at Daytona, using your KEYBOARD, and you'll survive just fine.
Therefore do we need to segregate LPI ratings by track type? Yea or
nay.......
"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash
David G Fisher
I agree with your suggestion that it would be worth considering to 'qualify'
the lpi according to on which track or track type it was achieved (after all
staying out of trouble at Bristol would get you more lpi than doing the same
at Sears), but I don't find it an absolute necessity. The lpi can already be
qualified to an extent by looking at the lapcounts etc. (Ctrl-Shift), and
anyway, if somebody knows how to stay out of trouble it'll always show in
the lpi, even iff perhaps not to the last digit behing the decimal point.
I run RC's most of the time, and although I still use the same ID that I was
using in the early days of N4 (when there was almost no race without an
intentional wrecker in it, guys that really hunted for the leader for
several laps in a row etc.), and despite the fact that I have used this ID
on Papy RC and ST servers in N2002, the lpi of that ID is a little over 80
right now.
It's in the hands of the driver to keep his lpi high. The above ID has a
ranking of 4 on RC's and 5 on SW's btw. I have another ID used only just
recently, almost exclusively on Papy servers which has a 5 on RC's, but
still an lpi of around 50 (almost all of the accidents were T1 accidents
where I simply got crashed out from behind).
You are right that the ST's are probably more dangerous tracks in terms of
getting crashed out by someone else. On the RC's, it usually T1 but mainly
on Papy servers - on other servers this seems to be less of a problem. But
accidents happen on the SS just like anywhere else.
If the existence of such a thing like an lpi gives only 50% of the drivers
an incentive and motivation to drive cleaner and safer, that already makes
it a very valuable parameter.
IMO the lpi is not only the most important indicator recognizing clean,
realistic drivers, it's also working quite well even today.
Achim
Agree - I have only raced in about 10 on line races, 3 of which were RASCAR. If
it hadn't been for the RASCAR experience I would have given up N2002 online the
other evening where I git hit from behind at the startline of three races in a
row (and yes I was right behind the car in front!).
My lpi is around 37 thanks to the RASCAR races - as a rookie at the wrong end of
the pack where pick up races can get ugly!
Tony
It's like two different worlds. My LPI suffers from far too many Daytona
pickup races I jumped into in the weeks after getting the sim and before
RASCAR began. I think I've only had four incidents in the 9 RASCAR races
I've been in. The racing in RASCAR has been EXTREMELY clean. I'm a little
proud to say that only one was my fault (incident with Mitch on a restart at
Dover).
David G Fisher
<SNIP>
False. You get *awarded* IC's when you get into a wreck that someone else
started just as if you had started the wreck yourself. Bad way for LPI to
work, it should only include wrecks that you cause, not get swept into...You
should not judge me by a number that is representitive of other people's
mistakes as well as my own.
Achim
> > The lpi for me is already today the most important indicator for how a
> > driver performs.
> <SNIP>
> False. You get *awarded* IC's when you get into a wreck that someone else
> started just as if you had started the wreck yourself. Bad way for LPI to
> work, it should only include wrecks that you cause, not get swept
into...You
> should not judge me by a number that is representitive of other people's
> mistakes as well as my own.
Such a great shame Papyrus never keept the "minimum-LPI-to-join-race"
criteria we had on TEN.
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"P.C. Oxford" mutte
- Eric
WOW! A double wammy! First they are adding a feature not seen in
years...and....they actually announced one of the items they are including
AND(wow a TRIPLE WHAMMY!!!) they are confirming a patch....
Thanks Eric...Please forgive my post..I'm pleased you guys are still
digging.
dh
Finally!!!!
Thank you sooooooooooooooooooooooo much Papyrus!!!!!
(we're not worthy etc.)
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"Eric Busch" reported (to my joy):
Would some kind of filtering-system of the race list be too much to ask for?
(so we could choose what types of races it should display - al'a 'UT' and
'RTCW' - it would be of great help IMHO...)
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"Eric Busch" said:
