rec.autos.simulators

by **Graeme Nas** » Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Hi All,

I downloaded the original GPL demo as soon as it came out but I found
that running it well on my system was something of an impossibility. I
could only get a decent frame rate by turning off virtually all the
textures and setting it to minimum resolution.
Since I'm running an MMX P200 with 32mb RAM and a Matrox Mystique
graphics card, I'm left wondering what sort of systems you guys are
running? And is the new version easier on hardware?

Also, I can't really acommodate a Voodoo graphics card so do you think
an upgrade to 64mb RAM would be the next best thing?

I'd be really grateful if people could help me out on this.

Happy Racing,
Graeme Nash

http://www.racesimcentral.net/
ICQ# 11257824

"DC says Michael needs professional help. I couldn't agree more" - Nigel Roebuck

by **David Ript** » Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00

The GPL Watkins Glen demo ran fine for me in 640x480 on a
Pentium MMX 166 running at 208, with a Voodoo 1 card and 64 MB.

If the reason you can't accomodate a Voodoo card is lack of a
free PCI slot, you could consider replacing your old Mystique
with a newer 2D/3D card. (There are several contenders out
there, and you need to read comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video
and some *** / hardware web sites to get a good feel for
their relative strengths and weaknesses.) If it's cost, you
can get a new off-brand Voodoo 1 card for about $50 (check
www.pricewatch.com), and I presume used ones are even less.

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by **Jan Otto Ruu** » Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00

You really need a 3dfx card to run GPL. I have a P200 with 96mb RAM and a
Voodoo2 card. I could have wished a faster CPU, but the Voodoo card does all
the difference.
I don't think upgrading the RAM will help much for speed in GPL apart from
saving more replay laps, but upgrading to 64 (or 96) will make you system
quicker as disk swapping will be minimised.

Don't bother buying GPL until you have a 3dfx card.

--

>Hi All,

>I downloaded the original GPL demo as soon as it came out but I found
>that running it well on my system was something of an impossibility. I
>could only get a decent frame rate by turning off virtually all the
>textures and setting it to minimum resolution.
>Since I'm running an MMX P200 with 32mb RAM and a Matrox Mystique
>graphics card, I'm left wondering what sort of systems you guys are
>running? And is the new version easier on hardware?

>Also, I can't really acommodate a Voodoo graphics card so do you think
>an upgrade to 64mb RAM would be the next best thing?

>I'd be really grateful if people could help me out on this.

>Happy Racing,
>Graeme Nash

>http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/gp2/
>ICQ# 11257824

>"DC says Michael needs professional help. I couldn't agree more" - Nigel

Roebuck

by **Trip** » Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00

> You really need a 3dfx card to run GPL. I have a P200 with 96mb RAM and a
> Voodoo2 card. I could have wished a faster CPU, but the Voodoo card does all
> the difference.
> I don't think upgrading the RAM will help much for speed in GPL apart from
> saving more replay laps, but upgrading to 64 (or 96) will make you system
> quicker as disk swapping will be minimised.

> Don't bother buying GPL until you have a 3dfx card.

...or a Rendition card... Runs just as nicely on my V-Raptor(Rendition
2200) as it does on my Voodoo2.

Trips

by **Remco Moe** » Fri, 04 Sep 1998 04:00:00

>Hi All,

>I downloaded the original GPL demo as soon as it came out but I found
>that running it well on my system was something of an impossibility. I
>could only get a decent frame rate by turning off virtually all the
>textures and setting it to minimum resolution.
>Since I'm running an MMX P200 with 32mb RAM and a Matrox Mystique
>graphics card, I'm left wondering what sort of systems you guys are
>running? And is the new version easier on hardware?
>Also, I can't really acommodate a Voodoo graphics card so do you think
>an upgrade to 64mb RAM would be the next best thing?

No. A Diamond Stealth II (Rendition) would be the next best thing.

BTW Check Alison's site for more hardware information at
http://alison.hine.net/sims

Remco

by **Maxwell Fami** » Sat, 05 Sep 1998 04:00:00

On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:49:45 +0100, Graeme Nash

>Hi All,

>I downloaded the original GPL demo as soon as it came out but I found
>that running it well on my system was something of an impossibility. I
>could only get a decent frame rate by turning off virtually all the
>textures and setting it to minimum resolution.
>Since I'm running an MMX P200 with 32mb RAM and a Matrox Mystique
>graphics card, I'm left wondering what sort of systems you guys are
>running? And is the new version easier on hardware?

>Also, I can't really acommodate a Voodoo graphics card so do you think
>an upgrade to 64mb RAM would be the next best thing?

>I'd be really grateful if people could help me out on this.

>Happy Racing,
>Graeme Nash

>http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/gp2/
>ICQ# 11257824

>"DC says Michael needs professional help. I couldn't agree more" - Nigel Roebuck

I run a P200,64m ram, VD1. AT 8x600 everything full, it runs fine.
Well at least for my likings :) Proablaly about 20-25fps, dunno how to
measure it accuratly.
GL
Juju

by **Graeme Nas** » Sun, 06 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Thanks Everyone!

--
Graeme Nash

http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/gp2/

"The forward velocity of my racing automobile became interrupted" - Brett Lunger

by **John Walla** » Sun, 06 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Nope, a Hercules Thriller 3D (V2200 instead of V2100).

Cheers!
John

by **Remco Moe** » Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00

>>No. A Diamond Stealth II (Rendition) would be the next best thing.

>Nope, a Hercules Thriller 3D (V2200 instead of V2100).

Yes, but aren't they a lot more expensive? The original poster has a
tight budget.

Remco

by **Eric T. Busc** » Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Depends on your definition of 'a lot', but the original poster never
really mentions his budget anyway. He only says he can't accommodate a
Voodoo card, perhaps its the cost, but it could also be the lack of a
free PCI slot. Assuming he just wants to replace his primary 2D/3D
card, for GPL the 8MB Thriller3D will be well worth the extra money over
the 4MB StealthII.

Eric

by **SNAF** » Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00

System = PII-450 o/c 504, 256Mb, Voodoo2 SLI, bought mainly for GPL
(Nordschleife here I come.. <g>). Runs like a dream with fiddling about in
Win98.

Generally More Ram = better replay storage. Probably not much better overall
game performance. Voodoo or Rendition = world of difference (try and
accommodate one if at all possible).

This reply is actually just a good excuse to say thanks for loads of decent
GP2 tracks!

Pete Tabram

by **Graeme Nas** » Mon, 07 Sep 1998 04:00:00

Hi again,

OK, let me clarify my earlier message as things have swung around now
and I have the money (200) to get a 3D adapter so that I can drive GPL
"for real".

To recap, I have an MMX Pentium 200 with 32mb RAM and a 2mb Matrox
Mystique graphics card.

Could anyone give me advice on what is the best 3D card to get? I have
heard that a rendition is better than a voodoo 2 as I don't have a PII.
But then I've heard that a voodoo 2 is just better.

I'm really confused!

--
Being appreciative in advance,
Graeme Nash

http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/gp2/
ICQ# 11257824

"I thought I saw someone I knew in the crowd, so I went over to say Hi" - Schuey

by **Marc J. Nelso** » Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00

For GPL? The Hercules Thriller 3D.

Cheers!

Marc

> Hi again,

> OK, let me clarify my earlier message as things have swung around now
> and I have the money (200) to get a 3D adapter so that I can drive GPL
> "for real".

> To recap, I have an MMX Pentium 200 with 32mb RAM and a 2mb Matrox
> Mystique graphics card.

> Could anyone give me advice on what is the best 3D card to get? I have
> heard that a rendition is better than a voodoo 2 as I don't have a PII.
> But then I've heard that a voodoo 2 is just better.

> I'm really confused!

> --
> Being appreciative in advance,
> Graeme Nash

> http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/gp2/
> ICQ# 11257824

> "I thought I saw someone I knew in the crowd, so I went over to say Hi" - Schuey

--
Marc J. Nelson
The Sim Project - http://www.simproject.com

* No animals were harmed in the making of this e-mail *

by **Remco Moe** » Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00

>Hi again,

>OK, let me clarify my earlier message as things have swung around now
>and I have the money (200) to get a 3D adapter so that I can drive GPL
>"for real".

In that case, I stand corrected, and would consider the option
adviced by Eric.

Remco

by **John Walla** » Tue, 08 Sep 1998 04:00:00

On Sun, 6 Sep 1998 21:46:27 +0100, Graeme Nash

>To recap, I have an MMX Pentium 200 with 32mb RAM and a 2mb Matrox
>Mystique graphics card.
>Could anyone give me advice on what is the best 3D card to get? I have
>heard that a rendition is better than a voodoo 2 as I don't have a PII.
>But then I've heard that a voodoo 2 is just better.

My two cents worth....

I have both Voodoo2 and Hercules Thriller 3D (Rendition V2200). In
both my old P225MMX and my new Celeron 300 the Rendition card is
noticably faster - very significantly faster if there are a lot of AI
around (such as in the pits).

If you are only interested in GPL then the Rendition is by far the
best choice, the V2200 is definitely preferred over the V1000 or the
V2100. If you play other games that use 3D then you need to weigh up
how important is good support for GPL, and consider Rendition v's 3dFX
in other games you enjoy.

Cheers!
John

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