Rendition is better for GPL. Rendition cards are also cheaper.
Or a Rendition.
Cheers!
John
Rendition is better for GPL. Rendition cards are also cheaper.
Or a Rendition.
Cheers!
John
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>OK, let me clarify my earlier message as things have swung around now
>and I have the money (200) to get a 3D adapter so that I can drive GPL
>"for real".
>To recap, I have an MMX Pentium 200 with 32mb RAM and a 2mb Matrox
>Mystique graphics card.
>Could anyone give me advice on what is the best 3D card to get? I have
>heard that a rendition is better than a voodoo 2 as I don't have a PII.
>But then I've heard that a voodoo 2 is just better.
>I'm really confused!
>--
>Being appreciative in advance,
>Graeme Nash
>http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/gp2/
>ICQ# 11257824
>"I thought I saw someone I knew in the crowd, so I went over to say Hi" -
> OK, let me clarify my earlier message as things have swung around now
> and I have the money (200) to get a 3D adapter so that I can drive
> GPL
> "for real".
> To recap, I have an MMX Pentium 200 with 32mb RAM and a 2mb Matrox
> Mystique graphics card.
> Could anyone give me advice on what is the best 3D card to get? I
have
> heard that a rendition is better than a voodoo 2 as I don't have a
> PII.
> But then I've heard that a voodoo 2 is just better.
> I'm really confused!
The Canopus 3D has 6MB instead of the usual 4Mb. You will see no
improvement from a Voodoo2 over a Voodoo1 unless you have a Pentium II.
(NB: do *NOT* get a Voodoo *RUSH* card, they are ***(compared to a
normal 3Dfx).
8-)
*Peter* 8-)
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Well, thanks for all the replies and I've given it some thought and
realised that if it weren't for GPL I wouldn't be getting a 3d card.
Hence GPL is my main reason, and hence I will probably be getting a
Hercules Thriller..... I may need voodoo technology if GP3 -ever-
appears, but that's a while off....
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So once again, thanks to everyone for their help and I hope to be racing
you all when GPL comes out in full...!
Graeme Nash
http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/gp2/
ICQ# 11257824
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>OK, let me clarify my earlier message as things have swung around now
>and I have the money (200) to get a 3D adapter so that I can drive GPL
>"for real".
>To recap, I have an MMX Pentium 200 with 32mb RAM and a 2mb Matrox
>Mystique graphics card.
>Could anyone give me advice on what is the best 3D card to get? I have
>heard that a rendition is better than a voodoo 2 as I don't have a PII.
>But then I've heard that a voodoo 2 is just better.
>I'm really confused!
FWIW, I was in a very similar situation (system wise and money wise!)
and went for a voodoo1 (for glide support in other games) plus an
extra 32MB RAM. I'm still tempted by a Thriller 3d but can't really
justify it for just one game :-(
BTW. Does your 200 have to include the wheel you *need* for GPL. (If
so, try the TM GP1. Not perfect but very good value!)
Toby
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>The Rendition version seems "sugary".....now, I know that's not a tech
>term, but it appears grainy....as if sprinkled with tiny tiny crystals
>that somehow 'sparkle".
>The V2 picture is softer yet clearer and is far easier on the eye. Not
>just my opnion but also my sons.
Of all of the above the Herc Thriller is markedly better in frame-rate
than any other card, although I personally don't see a huge difference
in image quality. That may be because my monitor is old, crappy and
lacking in vibrant colour, and perhaps also because I use a fresnel
lens to get huge visuals.
The Stealth S220 was a bit of a let-down for me, since it offered
essentially the same performance as the V2. The Thriller is a step up
from that, and a noticable improvement (esp 8Mb). My eyes are getting
old and tired though, so the visuals problably don't matter to me as
much as frame-rate :-(
The "smoother" look of the 3DFX is a 3dFX thing, the way it blends
compared to other cards. I actually prefer to have less blending,
since upcoming objects come into view more sharply and earlier.
Cheers!
John
- Eric
The Rendition version seems "sugary".....now, I know that's not a tech
term, but it appears grainy....as if sprinkled with tiny tiny crystals
that somehow 'sparkle".
The V2 picture is softer yet clearer and is far easier on the eye. Not
just my opnion but also my sons.
> >You really need a 3dfx card to run GPL.
> Rendition is better for GPL. Rendition cards are also cheaper.
> >Don't bother buying GPL until you have a 3dfx card.
> Or a Rendition.
> Cheers!
> John
cheers,
Rob Yates
says...
I've got a 12MB Voodoo2 with a P2-400 512K L2 cache. Looking forward to
seeing what kind of frame rate I get at 800x600 with everything turned
on.
I'm just a little concerned about replay's, though. I only have 64MB of
RAM, and with everything turned on I think I'll be lucky to get a lap
recorded (if it's anything like the demo). Hope Sierra works it out so
that's not the case. Seems like that would be a waste of that beautiful
replay UI.
Devon
> Funny you should mention that Bruce, i have just upgraded my computer
> to include a Stealth II for my main video card and also bought a
> Monster 3d Voodoo 1 card for 3dfx applications.
> I expected the rendition based card to look better than the 3dfx card,
> based on what i had previously read on this news group, but for me, the
> 3dfx card seems to be the better of the two as far as picture quality
> goes.
> I have read a lot on this news group about, "the washed out effect",
> but a simple understanding of what gamma correction is, and what it is
> used for, can alleviate that effect totally....
> Maybe it is just our computers Bruce, but i can only report on the
> facts as i see them on, "MY" computer, and the facts are that the
> Voodoo card is graphically superior on my computer compared to the
> rendition based card.
> Cheers,
> Ron
> > Interesting.....
> > I have both a Stealth II 4Mb and a Voodoo2 8Mb in a PII-266, 512K of
> L2
> > cache and I prefer the picture quality and colours from the V2 than
> the
> > Stealth.
> > The Rendition version seems "sugary".....now, I know that's not a
> tech
> > term, but it appears grainy....as if sprinkled with tiny tiny
> crystals
> > that somehow 'sparkle".
> > The V2 picture is softer yet clearer and is far easier on the eye.
> Not
> > just my opnion but also my sons.
I also have adjusted the gamma to suit my personal tastes but the
picture quality itself is, to my eyes, preferable even with default
gamma settings.
> Funny you should mention that Bruce, i have just upgraded my computer
> to include a Stealth II for my main video card and also bought a
> Monster 3d Voodoo 1 card for 3dfx applications.
Adjusting the gamma on the V1 and V2 definitely helps - I think I
settled on 1.2 for all three bars as the best level, and this is
equivalent to the Stealth. The Thriller _is_reported_ to give better
colours and overall look, but this hasn't been my experience, I found
it looked identical. What I did find though was that the frame-rate
was a big step up from the V2 and the Stealth, although a Celeron may
not have the "oomph" to feed a Voodoo2 (the CPU may be the bottleneck
rather than the card).
I think that's down to taste. For example I always preferred VQuake to
GLQuake, since the GLQuake looked a little blurry whereas VQuake
looked sharper but less "pretty". Most others I find look nicer on the
Voodoo. For GPL there's not too much in it for me regarding looks, but
I like the frame-rate of the Thriller. OTOH there's no way I would
have the Thriller if I had to choose between my V2 and my Thriller,
I'd far rather have the overall looks and support provided by 3dFX.
Cheers!
John
Reading this thread I'm beginning to contemplating changing the Stealth II for
the Thriller 3D...
/Christer, not made of money... and this sport (sim racing) isn't improving
things :o)
> Funny you should mention that Bruce, i have just upgraded my computer
> to include a Stealth II for my main video card and also bought a
> Monster 3d Voodoo 1 card for 3dfx applications.
> I expected the rendition based card to look better than the 3dfx card,
> based on what i had previously read on this news group, but for me, the
> 3dfx card seems to be the better of the two as far as picture quality
> goes.
> I have read a lot on this news group about, "the washed out effect",
> but a simple understanding of what gamma correction is, and what it is
> used for, can alleviate that effect totally....
> Maybe it is just our computers Bruce, but i can only report on the
> facts as i see them on, "MY" computer, and the facts are that the
> Voodoo card is graphically superior on my computer compared to the
> rendition based card.
> Cheers,
> Ron
> > Interesting.....
> > I have both a Stealth II 4Mb and a Voodoo2 8Mb in a PII-266, 512K of
> L2
> > cache and I prefer the picture quality and colours from the V2 than
> the
> > Stealth.
> > The Rendition version seems "sugary".....now, I know that's not a
> tech
> > term, but it appears grainy....as if sprinkled with tiny tiny
> crystals
> > that somehow 'sparkle".
> > The V2 picture is softer yet clearer and is far easier on the eye.
> Not
> > just my opnion but also my sons.