rec.autos.simulators

Please tell us this is all one big troll :-)

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Cheers!
Graeme Nash

   2_slow

   Actually, no. It has been a rather enlightening experience to see
what depths, true computer game ***ion can come to. Most, nay, nearly
all people do not wish to spend thousands of hours chained to thier
computer, running one game (yes, I know calling GPL a game, is
blasphemy, to those ***ed), just to become proficient enough, to keep
from getting lapped by the field. The learning curve is too steep, and
too long for people who have a life away from thier computer.

   What most, nay nearly all, people want, is a racing sim, that they
can spend a couple of weekends getting up to speed, and then race
competitively with at least the back markers.

   We all know that's not going to happen with GPL, don't we?

   A true sign of ***ion, is when people go into denial when
confronted with the facts.

   The fact is GPL was/is an unmitigated turd at the sales counter, and
most, nay nearly all, in the sim racing community gave it a thumbs down
and took a pass on the title.

   They don't want to sit handcuffed to thier computer for thousands of
hours, just so they can post thier lap times in R.A.S. either, you see?

   BTW, you chaps need to leave the N3 group alone and get to work on
those F1 2000 fellows. Thier posts are beginning to outnumber the GPL
posts here ;) Now wouldn't that be true blasphemy to the holy grail of
auto sims?

   2_Slow

I was originally at a loss to explain your comments on how bad GPL's physics
engine was.  That was until I saw this line from one of your posts. "I might
have even bought the game :)"
Am I right in assuming that you base all of your assertions on the demo
version of GPL?
The reason I ask is that the demo version is NOTHING like the retail
version.
I played the demo and never even considered buying it until I happened upon
this NG.  I took the leap of faith and bought a copy and am very glad I did.

Cheers,
...Colin

It's a case of quality not quantity. I don't have as much time to mess
about with my PC as I'd like, so when I *do* have time I try to spend it
on things that give me maximum satisfaction. That usually means one
driving sim and one flight sim at a time. In two years I've been through
about five "serious" flight sims but only one driving sim. Thousands of
hours? I doubt it very much! But hundreds on the same sim instead of ten
on one, twenty on another, fifty on another etc is what most of us have
experienced.

Which, while a problem, says nothing about quality, only about popularity.
There's a difference in sims as in everything else in life. If you want
ratings include real sex and ***, preferably at the same time. "Debbie
Does Death Row" would be a good place to start. Popularity isn't
necessarily bad, just don't make claims for it meaning anything.

Hehe. Keep it up, you're great entertainment. I often fall out with Dave
Fisher, but at least he's not scared to own up to his opinions. I respect
him for that.

Andrew McP

Why are you bothering to argue with this guy?    2_slow obviously has no idea
what he's talking about (Otherwise, people in the know would have taken a '67
Galaxy to Europe back in '67 and shown those Limeys what for!)

This guy's either got a dud of a 'puter or he can't get the hang of driving
the sim.  Either way, who cares?
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Bob Curtin
Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange
http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/
"If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, baggy
skin"

Eldred
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Own Grand Prix Legends?  Goto  http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc

Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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Now it seems like you're comparing '67 racing cars to MODERN racing cars.
Again, not very realistic.  Have you seen any in-car from a 1967 F1 race?

The average hardware available 3 years ago wouldn't even *run* GPL that well...

Eldred
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Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
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with experience...
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Hehe, who are YOU kidding?!?  I'll probably do well to break 120's...<g>

Eldred
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with experience...
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Pay attention now, big difference here!
Those aren't called sims, they are called arcade games.

We do!

So far you didn't give facts, only your opinion. You said GPL was
designed for 3 year old hardware, complete nonsense ofcourse.
Hardware available when GPL was released (2 years ago) wasn't good
enough for GPL, the hardware now available just is good enough for
36fps all the time (including those important starts with 20 cars).
You said a lot of other nonsense too, but I allready forgot.

First is correct, GPL didn't sell lots of copys. Again, a lot of
people passed GPL because they found it too difficult. If one really
is into SIM racing, you should be willing to spend a lot of time on a
sim to be able to handle it. You can't expect to win after ten races
with a realistic SIM? I bet you love NFS3?

I see. They want to win after one hour of practice. Great.

RAS is open for every sim, good or bad.
Is 2_slow perhaps a pseudo for David G. Fisher?

Saint19

It's time to put the lid on this one.....

MS

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