rec.autos.simulators

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

Damien Smit

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Damien Smit » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:46:47

The creators say they'll be locking the game at 30fps despite the fact the
original ran at 60fps and most other quality console racers like Gran
Turismo 3,4 etc run at 60fps.

Don't let it happen.

Petition here.

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

(Please no lame, ignorant replies saying that 30fps is more than adequate)

Doug Elliso

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Doug Elliso » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:51:27


Petition?  Just dont buy it.  Not that hard is it?

Doug

Damien Smit

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Damien Smit » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 21:54:15

OK, so if GPL2 was annouced and was to be locked at 10fps, you'd just say
'Oh well' and not buy it?

redTe

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by redTe » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:00:08

10 FPS ? I wouldn't download it for that ;)
Really, why did you suddenly switch from 30 FPS to 10 ? I believe GPL is
locked at something like 36 FPS and that's fine. Stable framerates are
possibly more important than fluctuating "fast" framerates. I know if you're
getting 60-70 fps at a particular track in Nascar 2003, your frame rate will
occasionally flicker down into the 30's and the change is very noticeable.
It's not so bad to have a constant FPS, especially in multiplayer.

Damien Smit

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Damien Smit » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:07:58

Project Gotham ran at a **constant** 60fps, as does Gran Turismo 3, as does
F355 Challenge on Dreamcast.  36fps is playable but it's not good or even
fine.  It's like comparing Vinyl to CD, FM to AM etc. etc. - there's always
people who just don't get it. :-\

ae

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by ae » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:11:50

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:46:47 +1000, "Damien Smith"


>The creators say they'll be locking the game at 30fps despite the fact the
>original ran at 60fps and most other quality console racers like Gran
>Turismo 3,4 etc run at 60fps.

>Don't let it happen.

*shrug* I won't let it keep me awake at night.

Andrew.
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Andrew

Damien Smit

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Damien Smit » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:13:32

Why reply then, idiot?

Wayne Templi

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Wayne Templi » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:18:26

Because he had something to say, dumb ass

Wayne Templin


redTe

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by redTe » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:21:10


Don't know about Project Gotham, I only played it once on a m8's X-Box, but
if GT3 was running at a constant 60 FPS I'll have to eat my *** shorts !
There is very noticeable slowdown sometimes in GT3.
What "it"don't I get ?
And where is the article/e-mail that states the frame rate will be cut ?
There must be some valid reason it's happening. It's like i.d saying Q4 will
run at 60 fps , but just for the hell of it we'll make the poor consumers
play it at 30fps ? Nonsensical.

Damien Smit

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Damien Smit » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:21:26

Really?  That he doesn't care?  That's great - I'll reply to all future
threads that I don't care about with "I don't care"

Damien Smit

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Damien Smit » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:27:26

OK, GT3 does stutter when there's lots of cars on screen but hey, it is a
PS2.

That high constant framerates greatly improve playability and realism -
moreso than increased detail.

Bizarre Creations stated it on their own web site forums.

Basically they're going to be using a ridiculously high number of polygons
for the cars.  GTR 2002 proved that you don't need many polygons for awesome
looking car models.  PG2 will feature roughly 3 times as many polygons per
car as GTR 2002 which is just ridiculous - done purely for screenshots in
magazines.

Cliff Roma

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Cliff Roma » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:48:38

And at one time we thought that the cars in Pole Position were awesome

Personally, I do not mind the cut frame rate (which I probably will not even
notice) and will greatly love the enhanced graphics.

Especially if they decide to offer (no clue if they do or not for this game)
higher resolution for my big screen.


Internet Use

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Internet Use » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 22:50:52


>>Because he had something to say, dumb ass

> Really?  That he doesn't care?  That's great - I'll reply to all future
> threads that I don't care about with "I don't care"

That would be an improvement.
Stephen F

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by Stephen F » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:09:32


What, that vinyl is better than CDs?  I knew that a long time ago!

Stephen

ae

Project Gotham 2 - disgraceful

by ae » Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:23:26

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 23:13:32 +1000, "Damien Smith"


>> *shrug* I won't let it keep me awake at night.

>Why reply then, idiot?

Because you posted a message ordering me to sign a petition I couldn't
give a flying f*** about, idiot.
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Andrew

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