rec.autos.simulators

I was wondering how the single player 'play' is?
I don't have Xbox Live anymore, but may be interested in buying it.

My original post was a little blunt & harsh so I'll try to add to it.
Firstly, the gameplay is brilliantly ***ive.  This is one area where
Bizarre Creations really show the other game makers like Polyphony how it's
done.  However, I do find it a bit silly that all cars are available right
from the start albeit only to drive solo on a single test track - kind of
ruins the thrill of saving up tokens and purchasing a better car which is
important in these sorts of games.

The car handling is wonderful too.  Project Gotham 1&2 have the most 'sim'
handling that you could possibly want while still remaining very
controllable with a joypad.  This is my gripe with GT3 on the PS2 - the poor
quality triggers on the PS2 joypads just don't cut the mustard for racing
games and using the stick for throttle and brake is pretty poor too.  You
could always buy a wheel & pedals but that kind of defeats the purpose of
playing a console game i.e. relaxing on the couch!  That's the main reason I
preferred the Dreamcast for racing games pre-Xbox as well - decent analogue
joypad triggers.

My main gripe with the graphics is that the wheel rims look terrible.  They
totally destroy the otherwise realistic look of the cars.  They have a 2D
look about them that makes them look like cardboard cut-outs.  Other than
that, they've added a whole host of little touches to the roadside graphics
that, unless you're driving very slow, you never notice anyway.  The
result - a game that runs half the speed of PGR1 for no good reason.  It
might not bother your average 40yr-old RASer but to my eyes frame-rate is
God in console racers.  Ironically a lot of the added trackside details
would only really be noticeable in a game running at 60fps...oh well.

The selection of cars and tracks is wonderful.  Pagani Zonda at the 'ring -
hell yes!!  Like I said the gameplay is very ***ive.  Is it better than
PGR1?  For me, no.  But I can understand those that are looking for loads of
cars & tracks really preferring PGR2.

I'm guessing there's more in PGR2.

Probably because there's no option on the PS2.  PGR1 had the option for
either method and when I first played it, I hadn't used either method before
and frankly using the triggers was a no-brainer.  There's just no way that
you can exercise the same amount of throttle control using a stick - not
that it matters in GT3 - power oversteer isn't even modelled slightly well.

Yes and they're far more intelligent too - they play a bit dirty though.

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I don't have a lot to add to the thread since I don't own an X-Box,
but when I played GTA3 I actually found myself using the d-pad rather
than the analog stick. The pad and the buttons are pressure sensitive,
so after a tiny bit of practice I was pretty good at being able to
negotiate slow curves and avoid brake lockup. Fun times! :)

Probably something most people never noticed about the PS2's
controller.

-Slash
--
"Ebert Victorious"
       -The Onion

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I don't have a lot to add to the thread since I don't own an X-Box,
but when I played GT3 I actually found myself using the d-pad rather
than the analog stick. The pad and the buttons are pressure sensitive,
so after a tiny bit of practice I was pretty good at being able to
negotiate slow curves and avoid brake lockup. Fun times! :)

Probably something most people never noticed about the PS2's
controller.

-Slash
--
"Ebert Victorious"
       -The Onion