Does the Xbox have that much better graphics? I've been leaning toward the
Xbox, but I understand that Grand Turismo is one of the best games around.
I have PGR's predecessor Metropolis Street Racer on the DC. I find it more
frustrating, arcadey and annoying (massive, cheating, catchup AI) than GT3.
Not that GT3 doesn't have its faults (repetitive races, horridly stupid AI).
It took a few tries to get into MSR and subsequently complete it.
GT3 wins out in physics and probably sound. And overall gameplay.
I also prefer GT3's road courses (two of which are real, a fair number of
others are reasonable) to unrealistic driving on short street segments based
on real locations.
GT3 by a long shot. All, IMHO, of course.
FWIW, I love GT3. (But, if you do get an Xbox, you'll probably prefer
Rallisport to PGR.)
Where the PS/2 vs XBox debate is concerned there is no doubt the XBox has
much better capabilities, at least twice the hardware power of the PS/2 on
all fronts and more capabilities. But where consoles are concerned,
exclusive software titles always dictate a console's success.
Ok, I'm a little more educated on these racing games. I'm pretty sure that
I'm only going to be playing one game for a long time. I'm not a gamer
really, but since the price has dropped - why not pick one of these things
up. So, it's come down to deciding on which of these two games will I enjoy
more. You guys should be the most independent source on this.
Does the Xbox have that much better graphics? I've been leaning toward the
Xbox, but I understand that Grand Turismo is one of the best games around.
Personally I think the Xbox has better graphics, but GT3 on the PS2 is
superb and unmatched on any other platform.
(I have both + Gamecube!)
- Michael
While I understand the benefits of add-on's, patches are one of the reasons
why I gave up on PC games. Console games ( I have a PS2, BTW, with GT3, F1
2001, WRC as for racing games) have to be bombproof upon release for this
very reason. Remember the F1 2001 debacle on the PC last year, when Force
Feedback wasn't supported in the release version and had to be patched?
Well, it was in the PS2 version all along. Also, I'm really getting tired of
having to upgrade my computer every year in order to play the latest
releases. With a console, the software seems to get better for a couple of
years while the programmers figure out the console, then it's about time for
a new version of the console. In any event, a game written for the PS2 on
its release and one written two/three years later both play 100%. Can't say
the same for a PC, though.
> Where the PS/2 vs XBox debate is concerned there is no doubt the XBox has
> much better capabilities, at least twice the hardware power of the PS/2 on
> all fronts and more capabilities. But where consoles are concerned,
> exclusive software titles always dictate a console's success.
> Ok, I'm a little more educated on these racing games. I'm pretty sure
that
> I'm only going to be playing one game for a long time. I'm not a gamer
> really, but since the price has dropped - why not pick one of these things
> up. So, it's come down to deciding on which of these two games will I
enjoy
> more. You guys should be the most independent source on this.
> Does the Xbox have that much better graphics? I've been leaning toward
the
> Xbox, but I understand that Grand Turismo is one of the best games around.
Well - you may alos want to consider Rallisport Challenge
and Moto Gp on the XBox, both are probably better simulations
than PGR.. MotoGP has a true first person view - on a bike.
(The version of MotoGP on the Xbox is pretty good by the
way)
PGR is worth consideration, the graphics are much better than
anything I can find for my Pent 4 at the moment, and the cars
are rendered with incredible detail. (Disc brakes glow red
under heavy braking for example- not that thats a reason to rush
out now and buy it - just shows the level of detail).
The driiving "feel" is about
as good as say, Porsche NFS - assuming you buy a wheel
(40ish - with a sort of rumble feedback).
The AI in PGR is a bit strange though - a competitor will take
a corner at ridiculous speed so long as the resulting crash
puts his/her car in front. But, this is rare - your competitors
generally just come across as intelligent, but commited
I bought an Xbox because the graphics onthe PS2 looked
around the quality of my old P2 350, plus the X-Box seems
to have attracted a lot of racing games (PGR, Rallisport,
MotoGP, Grand Prix 4, Colin McRae 3)
Not played GT-3, and perhaps I'm bias...
Steve
And, as far as depth goes, GT3 has a lot of it - but whether you'll want to
finish it all is the question. It does eventually get somewhat repetitive.
I've never played PGR or any XBox game for that matter, but at least between
PGR and GT3, the graphics in GT3 look much better to me.
Another plus of the PS2: You can use a Logitech Force Feedback wheel on the
PS2 and the PC. GT3 fully supports it, too.
I still wish they'd release a PC version of Gran Turismo; probably due to a
limitation of the PS2's hardware, GT3 only allows six cars on a grid, total.
I dream of the day when there will be a game like GT3, just as good, but on
the computer so as to allow good multiplayer online, and full fields...15,
20, 30 cars even on some tracks... *drool*
Milhouse
Yeah, the AI cars are the worst thing about GT3, too few of them, the AI
is not good, and the collision dynamics are unrealistic.
Having said that, GT3 is more about you against the track.
- Michael
To me, the one irrefutable, overarching, utterly compelling reason to buy an
Xbox is that each and every one of them costs Microsoft $325-$375 to build,
distribute, and sell. It doesn't get any sweeter than that.
> > Ok, I'm a little more educated on these racing games. I'm pretty sure
> that
> > I'm only going to be playing one game for a long time. I'm not a gamer
> > really, but since the price has dropped - why not pick one of these
things
> > up. So, it's come down to deciding on which of these two games will I
> enjoy
> > more. You guys should be the most independent source on this.
> > Does the Xbox have that much better graphics? I've been leaning toward
> the
> > Xbox, but I understand that Grand Turismo is one of the best games
around.
> To me, the one irrefutable, overarching, utterly compelling reason to buy an
> Xbox is that each and every one of them costs Microsoft $325-$375 to build,
> distribute, and sell. It doesn't get any sweeter than that.
So many games, so little time.
--
Olav Malmin
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>To me, the one irrefutable, overarching, utterly compelling reason to buy an
>Xbox is that each and every one of them costs Microsoft $325-$375 to build,
>distribute, and sell. It doesn't get any sweeter than that.
Ruud van Gaal
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download the "latest patches", MODs or add-ons.<<
While I understand the benefits of add-on's, patches are one of the reasons
why I gave up on PC games. Console games ( I have a PS2, BTW, with GT3, F1
2001, WRC as for racing games) have to be bombproof upon release for this
very reason. Remember the F1 2001 debacle on the PC last year, when Force
Feedback wasn't supported in the release version and had to be patched?
Well, it was in the PS2 version all along. Also, I'm really getting tired of
having to upgrade my computer every year in order to play the latest
releases. With a console, the software seems to get better for a couple of
years while the programmers figure out the console, then it's about time for
a new version of the console. In any event, a game written for the PS2 on
its release and one written two/three years later both play 100%. Can't say
the same for a PC, though.
