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Diamond Stealth II S220 and GP2?

Robert Knaube

Diamond Stealth II S220 and GP2?

by Robert Knaube » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Has anyone run this combination?  If so what were your results?  It's a
rendition based card with the new 2200(?) rendition chip.  I have an
Intergraph Intense 3d that's also rendition based(older chip) and runs
N2 great, but GP2 performance with the card stinks.

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Glenn Beaumari

Diamond Stealth II S220 and GP2?

by Glenn Beaumari » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Yeah I couldn't agree more.

Maybe, the GP2 code does not take advantage of the card's capabilities.  The
recommended frame rate dropped from 12 to about 8.  I can't work that one
out +ACE-

I've been impressed with this card in Win95 (yes), N2 and CPR.

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+AD4-Has anyone run this combination?  If so what were your results?  It's a
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+AD4-N2 great, but GP2 performance with the card stinks.
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David Mast

Diamond Stealth II S220 and GP2?

by David Mast » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00


>Has anyone run this combination?  If so what were your results?  It's a
>rendition based card with the new 2200(?) rendition chip.  I have an
>Intergraph Intense 3d that's also rendition based(older chip) and runs
>N2 great, but GP2 performance with the card stinks.

I tried it.  First, the Stealth2 is based on the cheaper 2100 version of the
new Rendition chip.  Though I don't think you'll see any improvement with one
of the 2200's (ex: Hercules Thriller).

Back to your query: The Stealth2 did fine in SVGA.  Same as other cards I have
had in the system (Stealth64 univbe/enabled, Millenium, ET6000-based STB
LS128).  Yes, they all give essentially the same performance in SVGA, based
on the in-game "processor occupancy".  Don't believe all the hype you hear
about differences in performance in 2D games, at least DOS-based!  The Stealth
*might* have given a lower recommended framerate in the video options screen,
but maybe I just misremember.  No matter, in the game it was the same as all
those other cards.

However, in VGA (320x200), it is a poor performer.  About 20% higher
occupancy readings.  This is a known problem with both the earlier V1000 chips
and the new v2x00 chips.  If you want to play DOS based games in VGA, this is
not the chip to use.  It is much slower in Quake at 320x200 ('course, you can
use VQuake and get better framerate at 640x480!).  Surprisingly, it wasn't any
slower in 320x200 ICR2.

Again, in SVGA, it performed pretty much the same as all the other cards I
tried (hey, I like to get first hand experience :-)), in most every SVGA
DOS-based game.

David Mast

Diamond Stealth II S220 and GP2?

by David Mast » Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:00:00


>Yeah I couldn't agree more.

>Maybe, the GP2 code does not take advantage of the card's capabilities.  The
>recommended frame rate dropped from 12 to about 8.  I can't work that one
>out +ACE-

See my previous reply on this thread.  Given the low recommended framerates, I
assume you are in SVGA?  If so, you may be able to ignore them.  I found the
SVGA framerates of the Stealth2 to be the same as a bunch of other
highly-touted cards.

GP2 does not take advantage of *any* card's 3D acceleration.  You won't see
any framerate benefit in using any of the hot 3D cards out there (verite 2x00,
Riva128, 3dfx, ...).  Only newer programs do, and not all of them.

Yoshihiko Minam

Diamond Stealth II S220 and GP2?

by Yoshihiko Minam » Wed, 21 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Greeting, David.

  I have Stealth2 S220 too. and I'm really satisfy about Papyrus sims
performance up.  but, When I run GP2 in SVGA. It's framerate dropped into
 12 fps. I had had 23 fps on old S3-968 video card.

  When I try Sitech UniVBE driver. but it doesn't work.  Should I try new
version UniVBE? and I'll regain 20+ fps in SVGA?

  Which do you run GP2 on Dos or through Windows95's emulation Dos?

 and one more question. I'm using Stealth2 S220 CD-ROM's driver. Is there
newer version driver on net?

  I loved GP2 more than UbiF1.  GP2's graphics is seem old. but There was
more competition against AI cars. drive into edge, and quite fine handling.
.
Thanks for help.

Yoshihiko Minami

parr

Diamond Stealth II S220 and GP2?

by parr » Thu, 22 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Have you guys tried reloading GP2. Maybe the program reads the system config
to optimise the game.

No expert, but just a thought.


>Greeting, David.

>  I have Stealth2 S220 too. and I'm really satisfy about Papyrus sims
>performance up.  but, When I run GP2 in SVGA. It's framerate dropped into
> 12 fps. I had had 23 fps on old S3-968 video card.

>  When I try Sitech UniVBE driver. but it doesn't work.  Should I try new
>version UniVBE? and I'll regain 20+ fps in SVGA?

>  Which do you run GP2 on Dos or through Windows95's emulation Dos?

> and one more question. I'm using Stealth2 S220 CD-ROM's driver. Is there
>newer version driver on net?

>  I loved GP2 more than UbiF1.  GP2's graphics is seem old. but There was
>more competition against AI cars. drive into edge, and quite fine handling.
>.
>Thanks for help.

>Yoshihiko Minami

HORB

Diamond Stealth II S220 and GP2?

by HORB » Thu, 22 Jan 1998 04:00:00

GP2 doesnt really test the speed of the video board but knows of the
performance of the video chips that had been on the market when GP2 was
released. When it doesnt recognize a chip, as the Rendition chips, it sets the
values to a standard performance.
You can get around this by simply ignoring the default fps and set the graphic
details manually. The V2000 boards are pretty fast and allow you to run with
all details on at 20 fps or without sky texture at about 23 fps on a P200MMX.

Cheers!
Klaus


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