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by **Kut** » Fri, 25 Oct 1996 04:00:00

They reworked the textures on a few of the courses (wall, sky,
horizon, crowd, and asphalt are the most noticeable), but even the
"old" courses are great. The frame rate screams on both old and new
courses. I thought I was doing well before in FPS, but now I can
manuever the car within inches of competition on a very consistent
basis. The handling is not something I immediately noticed at first,
but wouldn't want to do with out now. (P133 32mb FYI) I highly
recommend the card (I picked up the Intergraph card, and there tech
support was helpful also).

by **Matt Barne** » Sun, 27 Oct 1996 04:00:00

I have one quick question about the Rendition ready version of ICR2...
did someone say on here that they only redid several of the tracks?
Does this mean that not all of the game utilizes the Rendition benefits?

Matt

by **Andy Bac** » Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:00:00

> I highly recommend the card (I picked up the Intergraph card, and there tech
>support was helpful also).

I don't mean to be pessimistic, but the ICRs/Rendition screen shots I've seen
are hardly enough of a reason for me to run out and buy this card. I
honestly haven't seen enough to make me buy that over NASCAR2. Am I missing
something here? I realize that pictures can't exactly do it justice, but I
expected my eyes to pop out, not strain to find any difference.

Any help would be welcome.

Andy Backa The only skills I have the patience to learn are

- Calvin and Hobbes

Chewey Pages: http://www.cs.unb.ca/grads/b9yc/web/chewey.html

by **Chris Dra** » Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:00:00

No, all tracks benefit form the acceleration. Even tracks converted
from NASCAR benefit from the acceleration. Remeber, we're talking
about anti-aliasing, filtering etc. etc. What they have done is added
16-bit graphics to some (five I think) of the tracks to make them look
even better. Bottom line is, ALL the tracks look fantastic on the
Rendition.

____________
Chris Drake

by **Mike Boic** » Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:00:00

> > I highly recommend the card (I picked up the Intergraph card, and there tech
> >support was helpful also).

> I don't mean to be pessimistic, but the ICRs/Rendition screen shots I've seen
> are hardly enough of a reason for me to run out and buy this card. I
> honestly haven't seen enough to make me buy that over NASCAR2. Am I missing
> something here? I realize that pictures can't exactly do it justice, but I
> expected my eyes to pop out, not strain to find any difference.

> Any help would be welcome.

> Andy Backa The only skills I have the patience to learn are

> - Calvin and Hobbes

> Chewey Pages: http://www.cs.unb.ca/grads/b9yc/web/chewey.html

Well, I'm a little biased, but have you seen anybody who has
played the game say anything other than "you have to see it
to believe it"?

Compared with the unaccelerated version, it has high color artwork,
antialiasing, filtered texture maps, and runs at 30fps pretty much
all the time.

- Mike Boich
Rendition

by **David Gar** » Mon, 28 Oct 1996 03:00:00

> > > > I don't mean to be pessimistic, but the ICRs/Rendition screen shots
> I've seen
> > > > are hardly enough of a reason for me to run out and buy this card.
> I
> > > > honestly haven't seen enough to make me buy that over NASCAR2. Am I
> missing
> > > > something here? I realize that pictures can't exactly do it justice,
> but I
> > > > expected my eyes to pop out, not strain to find any difference.

> > > > Any help would be welcome.

> Buy the Rendition, get IRCII free, then buy Nascar2. If you hate IRC2,
> just mail me your copy. I will pick up the postage.

Hey Robert if you have a minutewould you mind emailing me the url that
shows these screen shots of ICR2
using the Intergraph reactor 3d? Thanks -DG

by **Mike Boic** » Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:00:00

> >Compared with the unaccelerated version, it has high color artwork,
> >antialiasing, filtered texture maps, and runs at 30fps pretty much
> >all the time.

> To be fair Mike, only 5 of the tracks have the high-color artwork,
> correct ????
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True, but all tracks have anti-aliasing, filtering,30fps, improved
rear-view mirror views, etc.

- Mike

by **David Spark** » Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:00:00

>> I highly recommend the card (I picked up the Intergraph card, and there tech
>>support was helpful also).

>I don't mean to be pessimistic, but the ICRs/Rendition screen shots I've
>seen
>are hardly enough of a reason for me to run out and buy this card. I
>honestly haven't seen enough to make me buy that over NASCAR2. Am I
>missing
>something here? I realize that pictures can't exactly do it justice, but I

>expected my eyes to pop out, not strain to find any difference.

>Any help would be welcome.

> Andy Backa The only skills I have the patience to learn are

> - Calvin and Hobbes

> Chewey Pages: http://www.cs.unb.ca/grads/b9yc/web/chewey.html

Take a look at the screen shots on the Late Night website. If that doesn't
convince you, then nothing will. There's a shot going down pit road at
Laguna Seca with full textured cars and track in the mirrors. There's a
shot of the carousel at Elkhart Lake with the most amazing trees I've seen,
and there's a couple of shots at Michigan, including one where someone spun
in front of me the translucent smoke is obscuring the driver view.

I'm not sure what your comment about trading off this against NASCAR2.
NASCAR2 will have Rendition support out of the box, so buying a Rendition
board bundled with ICR2 just means you will have the best of both worlds.

Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

by **David Sca** » Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:00:00

>Compared with the unaccelerated version, it has high color artwork,
>antialiasing, filtered texture maps, and runs at 30fps pretty much
>all the time.

To be fair Mike, only 5 of the tracks have the high-color artwork,
correct ????
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by **John Marti** » Tue, 29 Oct 1996 04:00:00

I've put a few screenshots up on my webpage for people to look at,of the
Intergraph reactor in action...
Make up your own mind...but I'm sure you will see the difference is
quite clear-cut.
--
rgs, John
< http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2444 >

by **Eric Franze** » Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:00:00

I was wondering what games come with the 3 cards. These are what I
know....
all cards come with ICRII and Quake. Intergraph's also comes with
Hellbender and Monster Truck Madness. Sierra's also comes with some
fighting game (don't know the name) and A-10. What others and what comes
with Creative's board. Also, when is Sierra's board due out? The issue of
games is the only determining factor as to what board I buy. Thanks.

by **Eric T. Busc** » Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:00:00

Can't you still get it directly from Intergraph through their 'Intergraph
Express' at 800-692-8069? I ordered mine for $216 including shipping, and
received it about 18 hours later. BTW, don't base your opinion of
Intergraph on an inept reseller.

--

Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

by **Eric T. Busc** » Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:00:00

ICR2 comes only with Sierra's and Intergraph's boards, not Creative's.
Their's comes with Quake and some old titles recycled from the failed 3D
Blaster VLB. These are Flight Unlimited, Rebel Moon, and Battle Arena
Toshindon. Even accelerated on the Rendition board, none of these titles
seem to stand out.

As far as I know, the Sierra board is not shipping with Quake. It only has
the Sierra titles bundled, ICR2, A-10, and the fighting game
***Gladiators. It should be out in mid-November.

Really the bundled software should only be a small part of your decision
making process. All the boards will be Rendition Ready, and thus will have
the same software support. More importantly should be the quality of
service and support you will receive. Do you feel more comfortable with
Sierra, Creative, or Intergraph?

--

Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
Nascar Setups Page: http://www.racesimcentral.net/~ebusch/

by **CR Ridl** » Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:00:00

> I was wondering what games come with the 3 cards. These are what I
>know....
>all cards come with ICRII and Quake. Intergraph's also comes with
>Hellbender and Monster Truck Madness. Sierra's also comes with some
>fighting game (don't know the name) and A-10. What others and what comes
>with Creative's board. Also, when is Sierra's board due out? The issue of
>games is the only determining factor as to what board I buy. Thanks.

Sierra's board ships with A-10, ICR2 and ***Gladiators. The boards
are available now. I just ordered mine yesterday and it should be
here by Thursday. $199.95+8.00 for UPS 2-day delivery= $207.95.
On a side note, I was trying to decide between the Sierra board and
Intergraph's reactor. I was told to make my decision based on
support. I called the local Intergraph office here and was told how
to contact a local reseller. I called the reseller and he knew very
little about the card. Not only did he not know the price of the
card, he also assured me that there would be no bundled software to
come with it. He told me that he would find out the necessary
information and call me back. That was yesterday afternoon. While I
waited, I called Sierra and ordered the Screamin' 3D....

CR

by **Dick Parsha** » Wed, 30 Oct 1996 04:00:00

> No, all tracks benefit form the acceleration. Even tracks converted
> from NASCAR benefit from the acceleration. Remeber, we're talking
> about anti-aliasing, filtering etc. etc. What they have done is added
> 16-bit graphics to some (five I think) of the tracks to make them look
> even better. Bottom line is, ALL the tracks look fantastic on the
> Rendition.

Does anyone know what Sierra's plans are for reworking the rest of the
tracks?

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