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-John

I'll try and have a car painted by next week.

Steve Brunt (spark18)

a car which all of a sudden had lost half a lap, was driving fairly slow and
then seemed to get into trouble again although there was no need to hurry.

Since I didn't know anything about your pitlane odyssey and all that, my
first thought was of course that you'd had an off and seemed to be in
trouble somehow, maybe because of damage to the car, controller probs,
computers probs - or anything else. That neither mattered nor did I have the
time to think this through in much detail - I reacted spontaneously.

My assessment had nothing to do with the driver, only with the circumstances
as I could see them at that time.

Achim

Achim

I agree with you on all but two aspects

1. I will not slow down if I can avoid it ;-)
2. None of us needs TP to teach us about racing. There's a lot of more
qualified guys for that here in RAS who can teach me all I need to know
about Nascar, and Eldred is the first who comes to mind.

Achim

I was still feeling ill (had had a bad stomach/intestinal virus this week)
and with the race taking so long, going back to the sofa seemed like an
incredibly attractive option more and more with every new lap under yellow.
Apologies, guys!

Achim

Achim

Now I wouldn't describe myself as a Nascar fan per se, but I do recognise the
subleties of it, and participating is fun (where as for me watching real races
isn't particularly).

Inevitably there is a lot to learn, but that is part of the experience. Rascar
seems an excellent place to learn without pissing off serious racers in leagues.

For those unaware John ran one of the first GPL leagues which had a big
disparity in ablity. The league was a great success and the performances of all
were recognised both at the front & the back of the grid.

Shame you didn't hang around as we can have fun racing even if laps apart. The
performance is very variable throughout the green periods as gplers like ZZ & me
cook our tyres to death. Jan & I had some good battles at C***te as our
performaces varied.

I find I tend to overdo giving room for leaders and either lose time or slide up
to the wall. All part of gaining experience I suppose. I would rather be doing
that than taking the leaders out though! As I learn I will be able to give
enough room without killing my own chances. Heck, I might not even be lapped so
much ;-)

Thanks for hosting from me as well.

Tony

No commitment Joachim!

Remember when Mansell won Michigan with a migraine. They were giving him
paracetamol in his drinks bottle, and he was sick with about 25 laps to go.
Can't have much fun for the poor girl giving him a kiss on the winner's rostrum!

Though I guess we shouldn't take Rascar *this* seriously :-)

Cheers

Tony

Damn! :)

Well, I think we can all learn from each other, and since Tom does real
racing, I think he has quite a bit to teach us.  I did real racing for a
while too, but in a different class of cars and under very different
circumstances.

As a matter of fact, we ALL have something to teach each other.  I
didn't see Tom's post as being snobby, but more as an act of self
preservation due to perceived performance issues for the rest of us.  
Tom is free to feel that way if he chooses, but I think he's gonna miss
out on some pretty good races.

As for me...

Even I have to say that I'm a bit apprehensive about racing with guys
that aren't used to stockcar racing, but hey, it's just a game.  Sure I
was mad at my last incident last night, but I was just mad about my bad
luck.

I had gotten the car loose coming off the last turn and had finessed it
into what I thought was gonna be a great save, when Steve nudged me
(surely not his own fault because I had lost speed trying to save the
car, and he was going to pass me low), and I spun into the pits as a
result. Thankfully, I was slowed enough that I didn't get a black flag
for speeding on pitroad, but I was penalized for entering a closed pit
(grrrr).  I had to fall to the end of the line on the next restart, and
I lost some aero because my hood was pushed up a moderate amount.

At the last restart (lap 49) I lost two spots because my aero problems
kept me from getting up to speed enough to hold of dave, and as we came
around the last turn, ed white had the aero advantage as we raced back
to the finish line.  It would have been very bad form to block weither
one of them (and besides, this is called "racing", not "blocking".  I
don't believe in blocking, even on the last lap.

And here's a perfect example of why you should never quit a race.  There
was some great racing going on in the back of the field, and if you quit
without saving the replay, you missed a good chance to see what was
going on.

So where's the next race(s)?  :)

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How about this?  I spent the WHOLE day doing yard work in 90-degree
heat.  I have 3/4 acre in south Texas, and I (naturally) have a riding
lawnmower. I had half the front yard done, and had to get off the mower
to clear some tree limbs that had been blown off by the previous rotten
weather we'd had.  When I went to get back on the mower, it wouldn't
start (dead battery).  

I couldn't leave to go get a new battery because I was also waiting on
our quarterly visit from the pest control company, so I ended up using
an electric weed whacker to mow the orther half of the front lawn.  
After that, I had to pick up the clean up all that ***(rake up the
mowed grass, and bag it) and the longer I worked, the worse I felt.  

Allergies, the heat, and the fact that all this physical activity was
not in tune with my otherwise sedantary lifestyle made for one draggin'-
ass redneck.  I was bone tired and my allergies had fully kicked in by
the time the race started.

Notice however, that I finished the race. Tony knows that I feel there's
is NO excuse to just quit - if you show up for practice, you should be
there when the race is over (unless your car just plain isn't drivable
and cannot be fixed).  :)

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Achim

I haven't seen anything that would make me share that view <g>

The way I've always seen Nascar from the outside is that one of the nice
aspects about it is that it's not a bunch of primadonnas, but a bunch of
regular, serious guys. Arrogance is mediocre. Especially if it's based on
the simple fact that you've done something longer than someone else (and
you're still not any better at it than they are ;-)

This is the first time a race did not go so well, after all the others that
went super-smooth (a 5:1 ratio, and the first 2 were even 50%). I think the
question arises whose performance he's really worried about ;-)

You can save the replay even when you quite the race ;-)

Achim

I wasn't insulting you guys....I was just "bustin' your balls" a little bit.
Sometimes, that doesn't work very well on newsgroup posts....sometimes you
don't write it very well and it "reads" different than you intended.  There
is a "...lol...." at the end, however.  But that doesn't always work
either....as I've found.

I totally understand what you guys are going through....and trying to do.  I
also will participate with you guys as much as I can.  That wasn't possible
yesterday.

I apologize to you, Tony.....and anyone else who took what I said as
"insulting."  It was not my intention when I was writing it.

Tom