The second race at Lowes was relatively incident free with the same drivers,
less the ones that left Pocono early. I was just happy to be competing in
races that didn't have "Dudes" parking sideways on the backstretch or slowly
driving around the track waiting to hear their spotter say the magic words,
"Here comes the leader."
Kyle
Replay tells all. :-)
I'm relieved to be able to say that I didn't cause any yellows at Pocono
even though my screen froze four times during the race......all during the
laps when we were putting around under yellow. Not one freeze during the
entire C***te race though. Very weird.
David G Fisher
Sounds to me like you are insulting our intelligence.
If learning to race in Nascar was achieved by reading text books then we
wouldn't need the term "Rookie"
How many yesterday thought Nascar racing was about turning in quick laps in
solo? - er none.
Fair enough Tom, but some of the "kiddies" like me learnt more from the
experienced online Nascar drivers last night than any amount of pickup races. I
am surprised you don't feel you have anything to offer.
It was my first experience ever of on-line yellow flags for instance - had
plenty of practice mind :-)
I would rather do that with a known bunch and it sure is different from racing
the AI.
After all isn't this what RAS is all about - helping each other out?
Tony
> How many people would play golf with you, if every time you hit your ball
> out of bounds, your opponent got the two-stroke penalty? Well, it may not
> work that way in golf....but in NASCAR racing it does! When you***up,
> usually you and one or two of your competitors "pay the penalty." Maybe
> more!
> I think I'll stay out of these RAS races for a while, until the "kiddies"
> learn the rules, and how to race under them. ...lol...
> TP
> Simmons
> > >7 cautions for 27 laps...
> > Ooh, that was depressing. My car didn't load, and no one else had my
> number.
> > I was *supposed* to be driving Ryan Newman's #12. It worked fine LAST
> week,
> > but not today. Didn't change a THING. Slower than everyone in the
field
> AGAIN
> > during practice. This is getting monotonous. Started almost last,
ahead
> of a
> > couple of cars that didn't get a qual effort. During the second
caution,
> I got
> > hit from behind on the pace lap and damaged. Thought I would be given
the
> > black flag for speeding on pit road, so I drove through the pits on the
> > restart. Third caution, I got caught out when everyone slowed down
right
> when
> > the flag dropped. I passed a car, and got a black flag for passing on
the
> left
> > before the s/f line. That's a stupid ***ing rule, IMO. Come in to
serve
> the
> > penalty, get out about 12 seconds ahead of the leader(Achim). He's
> catching me
> > at about 3-4 seconds per lap. Another yellow comes out when he's about
3
> > seconds behind. Cool - I can make up my lap. Surely he won't force the
> issue
> > and lap me. Wrong - he got me coming out of turn 3 to put me a lap
down.
> All
> > this within at MOST 15 laps. At that point, it wasn't even worth the
> effort to
> > continue. I pulled off the track and quit. I was so pissed that I
didn't
> even
> > bother to run at C***te. At least I hope *someone* had fun today -
it
> sure
> > in hell wasn't me... :(
> > Eldred
> > --
> > Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett
> > GPLRank - under construction...
> > Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of
> 0-12???
> > Currently at 0-9 as of April12th...stay tuned...
> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
I yesterday read somewhere that an incorrectly set AGP aperture size (in the
mobo BIOS) can lead to such screen freezes, even if the size is selected too
_large_. Maybe this would be something you could try?
Achim
...
apologies for taking the lap from you at that point.
I'd actually decided to stay behind you to let you remain on the lead lap.
But then you seemed to get into trouble in T3, ran wide and slowed down
considerably (did you hit the wall?), and that sort of made me think it
would be strategically better for my own direct battle with JohnP to not
have to deal with passing you after the restart.
It was a split-second decision. I'm a rookie on ovals, and I wasn't aware
that apparently (as I deduce from what you said in your message) you would
have been allowed to pass the pacecar and line up at the end of the field.
Sorry again.
Achim
...
I'd decided to let him stay on the lead lap, but then he seemed to get
untidy in T3 and that made me worried about what the restart would look like
with him ahead of me. I wasn't aware that (apparently?) he'd be allowed to
pass the pacecar and go to the end of the line.
It didn't feel good to pass him anyway and I did it neither lightheartedly
nor happily, but purely for a strategical reason, and was feeling sorry
while making the pass, too.
Achim
Achim
Achim
...
...
The other RASCAR races have been very, very clean and fast so far, including
the follow up to Pocono at C***te. Like Kyle said, a few of us were
running nose to tail with no room for error for half the race on a very fast
and quick track, and the rest of the field was clean since we only had two
cautions in 84 laps, one caused by a warping driver who politley
disconnected when he realized what was happening.
Also, there are plenty of wrecks in a real NASCAR race from what I've seen
over the years. Those wrecks are actually a big reason many fans watch the
races.
IMO, NASCAR sim racing certainly isn't as hard as F1.There hasn't been
anything really difficult to understand either in driving technique or rules
that I've come across since I bought N2002.
David G Fisher
> > Sounds to me like a lot of you today found out there's a whole lot more
to
> > NASCAR racing, than just turning in some quick laps during practice -
then
> > running solo until the race end. That's typical GPL - not NASCAR
racing.
> > Also, knowing the "official" NASCAR rules along with the "driver agreed"
> > un-official NASCAR rules is a key to racing in NASCAR.
> > How many people would play golf with you, if every time you hit your
ball
> > out of bounds, your opponent got the two-stroke penalty? Well, it may
not
> > work that way in golf....but in NASCAR racing it does! When you***
up,
> > usually you and one or two of your competitors "pay the penalty." Maybe
> > more!
> > I think I'll stay out of these RAS races for a while, until the
"kiddies"
> > learn the rules, and how to race under them. ...lol...
> > TP
> > Simmons
> > > >7 cautions for 27 laps...
> > > Ooh, that was depressing. My car didn't load, and no one else had my
> > number.
> > > I was *supposed* to be driving Ryan Newman's #12. It worked fine LAST
> > week,
> > > but not today. Didn't change a THING. Slower than everyone in the
> field
> > AGAIN
> > > during practice. This is getting monotonous. Started almost last,
> ahead
> > of a
> > > couple of cars that didn't get a qual effort. During the second
> caution,
> > I got
> > > hit from behind on the pace lap and damaged. Thought I would be given
> the
> > > black flag for speeding on pit road, so I drove through the pits on
the
> > > restart. Third caution, I got caught out when everyone slowed down
> right
> > when
> > > the flag dropped. I passed a car, and got a black flag for passing on
> the
> > left
> > > before the s/f line. That's a stupid ***ing rule, IMO. Come in to
> serve
> > the
> > > penalty, get out about 12 seconds ahead of the leader(Achim). He's
> > catching me
> > > at about 3-4 seconds per lap. Another yellow comes out when he's
about
> 3
> > > seconds behind. Cool - I can make up my lap. Surely he won't force
the
> > issue
> > > and lap me. Wrong - he got me coming out of turn 3 to put me a lap
> down.
> > All
> > > this within at MOST 15 laps. At that point, it wasn't even worth the
> > effort to
> > > continue. I pulled off the track and quit. I was so pissed that I
> didn't
> > even
> > > bother to run at C***te. At least I hope *someone* had fun today -
> it
> > sure
> > > in hell wasn't me... :(
> > > Eldred
> > > --
> > > Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett
> > > GPLRank - under construction...
> > > Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of
> > 0-12???
> > > Currently at 0-9 as of April12th...stay tuned...
> > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
David G Fisher
> >7 cautions for 27 laps...
> Ooh, that was depressing. My car didn't load, and no one else had my
number.
> I was *supposed* to be driving Ryan Newman's #12. It worked fine LAST
week,
> but not today. Didn't change a THING. Slower than everyone in the field
AGAIN
> during practice. This is getting monotonous. Started almost last, ahead
of a
> couple of cars that didn't get a qual effort. During the second caution,
I got
> hit from behind on the pace lap and damaged. Thought I would be given the
> black flag for speeding on pit road, so I drove through the pits on the
> restart. Third caution, I got caught out when everyone slowed down right
when
> the flag dropped. I passed a car, and got a black flag for passing on the
left
> before the s/f line. That's a stupid ***ing rule, IMO. Come in to serve
the
> penalty, get out about 12 seconds ahead of the leader(Achim). He's
catching me
> at about 3-4 seconds per lap. Another yellow comes out when he's about 3
> seconds behind. Cool - I can make up my lap. Surely he won't force the
issue
> and lap me. Wrong - he got me coming out of turn 3 to put me a lap down.
All
> this within at MOST 15 laps. At that point, it wasn't even worth the
effort to
> continue. I pulled off the track and quit. I was so pissed that I didn't
even
> bother to run at C***te. At least I hope *someone* had fun today - it
sure
> in hell wasn't me... :(
> Eldred
> --
> Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett
> GPLRank - under construction...
> Can the Detroit Tigers match the Detroit Lions' blazing 2001 start of
0-12???
> Currently at 0-9 as of April12th...stay tuned...
> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
David G Fisher
> I yesterday read somewhere that an incorrectly set AGP aperture size (in
the
> mobo BIOS) can lead to such screen freezes, even if the size is selected
too
> _large_. Maybe this would be something you could try?
> Achim
> ...
> > ...my screen froze four times during the race...
David G Fisher
> David G Fisher
> > Hi David,
> > I yesterday read somewhere that an incorrectly set AGP aperture size (in
> the
> > mobo BIOS) can lead to such screen freezes, even if the size is selected
> too
> > _large_. Maybe this would be something you could try?
> > Achim
> > ...
> > > ...my screen froze four times during the race...
Thats what it seemed like from my seat. I did check up for David. As they
say, I guess it's one of them Nascar racing deals. It comes from racing
close together. No reaction time, I guess.
I think after we all race together for a while we'll get better. I remember
that in most of the leagues I've run in. It took quite a few races to get
used to the other competitors.
ZZ
