A local shop has this wheel in stock, is there anyway to tell if it has
gears or a belt before I buy it? ...can't think they'd like me taking
the back off of it in the store ;-)
Thanks for any info
Ken
PS I'd get the Force RS if I had the extra cash.
Anyway, you can tell the new one because the pedal tops are black and not
light grey.
I'd be very surprised if the FF mechanism was new, since the wheel looks
almost identical to the old one.
> Anyway, you can tell the new one because the pedal tops are black and not
> light grey.
> I'd be very surprised if the FF mechanism was new, since the wheel looks
> almost identical to the old one.
> > Rumor has it that the Ferrari wheel has been "redesigned" and is now
> > gear driven as opposed to the older belt drive system. Any truth to
> > this? Has anyone compared the new to old? How does the new version
> > feel?
> > A local shop has this wheel in stock, is there anyway to tell if it has
> > gears or a belt before I buy it? ...can't think they'd like me taking
> > the back off of it in the store ;-)
> > Thanks for any info
> > Ken
> > PS I'd get the Force RS if I had the extra cash.
The one at ECTS is the "Ferrari-licensed Force Feedback GT Racing Wheel" and
does show black pedals. At Thrustmaster site they have the "Force Feedback
Racing Wheel? licensed by Ferrari?" , its labeled as "new" and it has the grey
pedals in the picture, no mention of a "GT" wheel at the site. And just to make
it interesting Thrustmaster also has a press release from May for the "360
Modena? Force Feedback Racing Wheel". I take it from an earlier thread that the
Modena FF is indeed a separate model being released. Are these other 2 "Ferrari"
wheels separate models or has one of them replaced the original Ferrari model?
BTW the "Force Feedback Racing Wheel? licensed by Ferrari?" at thrustmaster says
USB only, didn't the original have a serial connection as well?
Ken
> Anyway, you can tell the new one because the pedal tops are black and not
> light grey.
> I'd be very surprised if the FF mechanism was new, since the wheel looks
> almost identical to the old one.
> > Rumor has it that the Ferrari wheel has been "redesigned" and is now
> > gear driven as opposed to the older belt drive system. Any truth to
> > this? Has anyone compared the new to old? How does the new version
> > feel?
> > A local shop has this wheel in stock, is there anyway to tell if it has
> > gears or a belt before I buy it? ...can't think they'd like me taking
> > the back off of it in the store ;-)
> > Thanks for any info
> > Ken
> > PS I'd get the Force RS if I had the extra cash.
My computer shop where I ordered it said I had to wait an extra 2 weeks,
because they just changed models.
He said to me that apparently It was only a cosmetic upgrade, but then again
he never opened the box.
I have this wheel now for a week or 3 and it has grey/silver like pedals,
and an USB only connection.
It appears also to be gear driven however I am not sure about that. I can't
compare the FFB feeling with other wheels as it is my first FFB wheel,
replacing the ol' T2
Then again I think it is strange that Thrustmaster will change its Ferrari
FFB wheel again in such short notice.... If I indeed have that new version
of the wheel (?)
I'll check tonight if I find some sort of version number on the wheel, to
compare it with a the 'older' model.
Jim
Anyway, just to clear things up for Ken, there is a new Ferrari wheel from
Thrustmaster/Guillemot on the way (this one is called the FF GT Racing
Wheel), which has redesigned pedals and an improved clamp. It debuted at
ECTS a few days ago. The new one has black pedal tops and probably isn't
available yet. Other than the pedals it looks the same as the old Ferrari
wheel, and hence I would guess it still uses a belt. The Ferrari wheel has
never particularly suffered from using a belt though, the FF is just as good
(IMO) as the cable driven LWFF.
One point of confusion is that there is already two Guillemot Ferrari
wheels, since shortly after the wheels original release, they modified the
design slightly, making the shifters less wobbly, and removing the spring
effect on the pedal tops. The first release you can't get anymore, the
second release should be the one on sale now, and I don't know when the one
with the new black-top pedals will be available. It could be on sale now
for all I know. Anyway, all you need to know to recognize it is that the
pedals tops are black, whereas the old ones were light grey.
Does anyone know what's goin on?
I talked to the shop and they couldn't tell me if it gears or belts, but what
they have in stock is USB only.
Thanks
Ken
> My computer shop where I ordered it said I had to wait an extra 2 weeks,
> because they just changed models.
> He said to me that apparently It was only a cosmetic upgrade, but then again
> he never opened the box.
> I have this wheel now for a week or 3 and it has grey/silver like pedals,
> and an USB only connection.
> It appears also to be gear driven however I am not sure about that. I can't
> compare the FFB feeling with other wheels as it is my first FFB wheel,
> replacing the ol' T2
> Then again I think it is strange that Thrustmaster will change its Ferrari
> FFB wheel again in such short notice.... If I indeed have that new version
> of the wheel (?)
> I'll check tonight if I find some sort of version number on the wheel, to
> compare it with a the 'older' model.
> Jim
> > Rumor has it that the Ferrari wheel has been "redesigned" and is now
> > gear driven as opposed to the older belt drive system. Any truth to
> > this? Has anyone compared the new to old? How does the new version
> > feel?
> > A local shop has this wheel in stock, is there anyway to tell if it has
> > gears or a belt before I buy it? ...can't think they'd like me taking
> > the back off of it in the store ;-)
> > Thanks for any info
> > Ken
> > PS I'd get the Force RS if I had the extra cash.
SB
> Does anyone know what's goin on?
It is definetely precise to steer. more precise as my T2. But then again it
had completely worn pots.
no jittering at all, nice stable calibration readings.
I should advice you to try to test the wheel tough, if you are not so sure
about it. You just have to feel it, I guess
Jim
> I talked to the shop and they couldn't tell me if it gears or belts, but
what
> they have in stock is USB only.
> Thanks
> Ken
> > You're confusing me..... I'm wondering which version of the wheel I have
at
> > the moment.
> > My computer shop where I ordered it said I had to wait an extra 2 weeks,
> > because they just changed models.
> > He said to me that apparently It was only a cosmetic upgrade, but then
again
> > he never opened the box.
> > I have this wheel now for a week or 3 and it has grey/silver like
pedals,
> > and an USB only connection.
> > It appears also to be gear driven however I am not sure about that. I
can't
> > compare the FFB feeling with other wheels as it is my first FFB wheel,
> > replacing the ol' T2
> > Then again I think it is strange that Thrustmaster will change its
Ferrari
> > FFB wheel again in such short notice.... If I indeed have that new
version
> > of the wheel (?)
> > I'll check tonight if I find some sort of version number on the wheel,
to
> > compare it with a the 'older' model.
> > Jim
> > > Rumor has it that the Ferrari wheel has been "redesigned" and is now
> > > gear driven as opposed to the older belt drive system. Any truth to
> > > this? Has anyone compared the new to old? How does the new version
> > > feel?
> > > A local shop has this wheel in stock, is there anyway to tell if it
has
> > > gears or a belt before I buy it? ...can't think they'd like me taking
> > > the back off of it in the store ;-)
> > > Thanks for any info
> > > Ken
> > > PS I'd get the Force RS if I had the extra cash.
I called customer service number and got the Guillemot technical support
(Canada). I asked if the Ferrari FF for the PC had been revised to be gear
driven. They said as far as they new the Ferrari wheel was still belt
driven...if they had changed it no one had told them! They did say that there
had been some small revisions since the paddle updates last summer but it was
still basically the same wheel.
Ken
PS what started all this was the "wheel advice" and the "Difference between old
and new TM Ferrari wheels?" threads in the tweaks and review forum:
http://www.slottweak.com/cgi-bin/UBB/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&f...APO|s+Den+&number=1&DaysPrune=&LastLogin=
> It is definetely precise to steer. more precise as my T2. But then again it
> had completely worn pots.
> no jittering at all, nice stable calibration readings.
> I should advice you to try to test the wheel tough, if you are not so sure
> about it. You just have to feel it, I guess
> Jim
> > Jimmy, sounds like yours is definitely the latest version. I'm not that
> > concerned if its gear or belt driven but more importantly how does it feel
> with
> > FF off ...ie. is it smooth and precise? I've heard others complain that
> certain
> > geared wheels feel notchy when turning the wheel and that they don't point
> the
> > car consistently.
> > I talked to the shop and they couldn't tell me if it gears or belts, but
> what
> > they have in stock is USB only.
> > Thanks
> > Ken
> > > You're confusing me..... I'm wondering which version of the wheel I have
> at
> > > the moment.
> > > My computer shop where I ordered it said I had to wait an extra 2 weeks,
> > > because they just changed models.
> > > He said to me that apparently It was only a cosmetic upgrade, but then
> again
> > > he never opened the box.
> > > I have this wheel now for a week or 3 and it has grey/silver like
> pedals,
> > > and an USB only connection.
> > > It appears also to be gear driven however I am not sure about that. I
> can't
> > > compare the FFB feeling with other wheels as it is my first FFB wheel,
> > > replacing the ol' T2
> > > Then again I think it is strange that Thrustmaster will change its
> Ferrari
> > > FFB wheel again in such short notice.... If I indeed have that new
> version
> > > of the wheel (?)
> > > I'll check tonight if I find some sort of version number on the wheel,
> to
> > > compare it with a the 'older' model.
> > > Jim
> > > > Rumor has it that the Ferrari wheel has been "redesigned" and is now
> > > > gear driven as opposed to the older belt drive system. Any truth to
> > > > this? Has anyone compared the new to old? How does the new version
> > > > feel?
> > > > A local shop has this wheel in stock, is there anyway to tell if it
> has
> > > > gears or a belt before I buy it? ...can't think they'd like me taking
> > > > the back off of it in the store ;-)
> > > > Thanks for any info
> > > > Ken
> > > > PS I'd get the Force RS if I had the extra cash.
Hmmm...now I'm confused.
<snipped>
BTW the "Force Feedback Racing WheelT licensed by Ferrari?" at thrustmaster
says
USB only, didn't the original have a serial connection as well?
Ken
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| You're confusing me..... I'm wondering which version of the wheel I have
at
| the moment.
|
| My computer shop where I ordered it said I had to wait an extra 2 weeks,
| because they just changed models.
| He said to me that apparently It was only a cosmetic upgrade, but then
again
| he never opened the box.
|
| I have this wheel now for a week or 3 and it has grey/silver like pedals,
| and an USB only connection.
| It appears also to be gear driven however I am not sure about that. I
can't
| compare the FFB feeling with other wheels as it is my first FFB wheel,
| replacing the ol' T2
|
| Then again I think it is strange that Thrustmaster will change its Ferrari
| FFB wheel again in such short notice.... If I indeed have that new version
| of the wheel (?)
| I'll check tonight if I find some sort of version number on the wheel, to
| compare it with a the 'older' model.
|
| Jim
|
|
|
| > Rumor has it that the Ferrari wheel has been "redesigned" and is now
| > gear driven as opposed to the older belt drive system. Any truth to
| > this? Has anyone compared the new to old? How does the new version
| > feel?
| >
| > A local shop has this wheel in stock, is there anyway to tell if it has
| > gears or a belt before I buy it? ...can't think they'd like me taking
| > the back off of it in the store ;-)
| >
| > Thanks for any info
| > Ken
| > PS I'd get the Force RS if I had the extra cash.
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|
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| Dunno, I'm guessing you're refering to his belt vs gear comment.
|
| Anyway, just to clear things up for Ken, there is a new Ferrari wheel from
| Thrustmaster/Guillemot on the way (this one is called the FF GT Racing
| Wheel), which has redesigned pedals and an improved clamp. It debuted at
| ECTS a few days ago. The new one has black pedal tops and probably isn't
| available yet. Other than the pedals it looks the same as the old Ferrari
| wheel, and hence I would guess it still uses a belt. The Ferrari wheel
has
| never particularly suffered from using a belt though, the FF is just as
good
| (IMO) as the cable driven LWFF.
|
| One point of confusion is that there is already two Guillemot Ferrari
| wheels, since shortly after the wheels original release, they modified the
| design slightly, making the shifters less wobbly, and removing the spring
| effect on the pedal tops. The first release you can't get anymore, the
| second release should be the one on sale now, and I don't know when the
one
| with the new black-top pedals will be available. It could be on sale now
| for all I know. Anyway, all you need to know to recognize it is that the
| pedals tops are black, whereas the old ones were light grey.
|
| > He 'may' be crossing up the NEW Logitech MOMO wheel with the Gulli
| Ferrari
| > wheel. Heck in American sportscar racing, Momo=Ferarri for the longest
| > time with the Moretti Momo Ferrari 333sp.
| > dave henrie
|
|
|
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| The more I turn the wheel, the more I get the feeling that it is gear
| driven. First I tought the friction I heard
| was from the motor, but it is also present in non-ffb games.Going from
| normal cornering to oversteer correction is something which is not as fast
| as with my previous T2 because of that friction. With FFB enabled no
problem
| at all (GPL runs just fine). Maybe it needs some extra running-in time.
|
| It is definetely precise to steer. more precise as my T2. But then again
it
| had completely worn pots.
| no jittering at all, nice stable calibration readings.
|
| I should advice you to try to test the wheel tough, if you are not so sure
| about it. You just have to feel it, I guess
|
| Jim
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