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by **bernard spilma** » Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:18:37

I remember now why GPL went back to EB
two hours after I bought it 5 years ago. It will
not recognize my steering axis (0). The calibrate
screen seems to know that it is there, but the slider
stays on the right and moves only slightly when the
wheel is turned. The wheel is an MS Pro Racing wheel,
runs fine in all other games .

When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again.
I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over
several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I
can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT
TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo.
How can someone create such a beautiful driving model
and the***it up with buggy support routines?
Any body got any suggestions as to a fix? I've installed
patch 1.2 and the D3D fix. My cpu is below 1700 (1400)
so I left off the fast cpu fix. Thanks.
WS

by **Eldre** » Thu, 02 Dec 2004 13:39:27

>When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again.
>I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over
>several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I
>can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT
>TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo.
>How can someone create such a beautiful driving model
>and the***it up with buggy support routines?

Wow - most people think Papy has the BEST controller support... I'll assume
the wheel works correctly in the Windows game controller screen? In GPL,
there's a screen checkbox somewhere that choosed between generic input
and...(?) Crap, I can't remember what it's called, and GPL decided to act like
a brat and not run on this system. Whatever setting it's on, change to the
other one and re-cal in the game.
Hope this helps.

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by **bernard spilma** » Thu, 02 Dec 2004 14:01:01

spilman"

> >When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again.
> >I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over
> >several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I
> >can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT
> >TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo.
> >How can someone create such a beautiful driving model
> >and the***it up with buggy support routines?

> Wow - most people think Papy has the BEST controller support... I'll
assume
> the wheel works correctly in the Windows game controller screen? In GPL,
> there's a screen checkbox somewhere that choosed between generic input
> and...(?) Crap, I can't remember what it's called, and GPL decided to act
like
> a brat and not run on this system. Whatever setting it's on, change to
the
> other one and re-cal in the game.
> Hope this helps.

> Eldred

Thanks for the reply, I believe you are speaking of "generic" vs "direct"
input. I tried that and was told that "Windows NT (I have XP) does not
have (support?) generic driver". I tried running GPL in Windows 98
compatibility mode but I couldn't even get through the menus. Who
knows? I'm finding a lot of related sites and there have to be others
who have had the same problem.
WS

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by **Darryl Johnso** » Thu, 02 Dec 2004 22:36:35

Hmmm, very odd! I run GPL on my XP Home system and have no problems.
(I know THAT doesn't help!)

Did you go to the controller assignment page before you tried the
calibration screen? Did you, in fact, turn the wheel LEFT when asked
to do so? (It messes things up if you turn right when asked to turn
left, but it's an easy thing to do -- he says from personal
experience. <sigh>)

Do you have more than one controller attached to your computer at the
time? I sometimes play some of the flight sims, and if I forget to
unplug the joystick before starting GPL, it will get confused or
select the wrong controller. GPL wants the controller you are using
to be the FIRST device.

I can't think of anything else to suggest at the mo. Good luck!

--
Darryl

by **Remco Moe** » Thu, 02 Dec 2004 22:59:30

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:36:35 GMT, Darryl Johnson

>> I remember now why GPL went back to EB
>> two hours after I bought it 5 years ago. It will
>> not recognize my steering axis (0). The calibrate
>> screen seems to know that it is there, but the slider
>> stays on the right and moves only slightly when the
>> wheel is turned. The wheel is an MS Pro Racing wheel,
>> runs fine in all other games .

>> When I saw it used at EB last week I decided to try it again.
>> I know thousands are enjoying GPL and I've looked over
>> several forums but find nothing about this specific issue. I
>> can't return this one (but I really don't want to, I WANT
>> TO DRIVE IT!). I remember hours of fun in the demo.
>> How can someone create such a beautiful driving model
>> and the***it up with buggy support routines?
>> Any body got any suggestions as to a fix? I've installed
>> patch 1.2 and the D3D fix. My cpu is below 1700 (1400)
>> so I left off the fast cpu fix. Thanks.
>> WS

>Hmmm, very odd! I run GPL on my XP Home system and have no problems.
>(I know THAT doesn't help!)

>Did you go to the controller assignment page before you tried the
>calibration screen? Did you, in fact, turn the wheel LEFT when asked
>to do so? (It messes things up if you turn right when asked to turn
>left, but it's an easy thing to do -- he says from personal
>experience. <sigh>)

>Do you have more than one controller attached to your computer at the
>time? I sometimes play some of the flight sims, and if I forget to
>unplug the joystick before starting GPL, it will get confused or
>select the wrong controller. GPL wants the controller you are using
>to be the FIRST device.

Uhm, no. If you're using the DirectInput driver you can have multiple
controllers, and the one you're using doesn't have to be the first. As
a matter of fact you can use multiple controllers at the same time.
You can select a different controller by clicking the golden arrows.

Make sure the controllers are calibrated correctly in Windows before
you're using them in GPL.

The only problem I can think of is that the controller you're using
does have a range larger than GPL can handle. (Over 2000 IIRC).

Cheers!

Remco

by **Nigel Nichol** » Fri, 03 Dec 2004 05:09:10

Certainly I would have to defend Papyrus for NOT putting *** support
routines in their games. I have always accredited them with simple, always
works controller routines.

But thats not helping you however so first things I would try is making sure
that the your controller is

1. calibrated correctly in Windows
2. set as controller ID 1 in the Controller IDs tab in the windows setup.
3. make sure after you have calibrated in Windows that you are selecting
"Direct controller" in GPL.

Its weird that it works in other games and not GPL. As a rule the likes of
Papyrus GPL, Nascars are the best and easiest to setup

Cya
Nigel
Redline Race Controls
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~lakewood/Redline2.htm

by **bernard spilma** » Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:43:52

I get a bit reactive and blame the software hastily too often. It
must be a peculiarity with the wheel, because I got a joystick
to work perfectly. I'll try the Windows ID check, but I've
been meaning to get a new wheel soon, so now I have
a good excuse. Thanks.
WS

by **Jan Verschuere** » Fri, 03 Dec 2004 08:03:50

If you're doing a new install, note that GPL won't run on XP before you
patch it to 1.2.0.2. If you've already done that (or are copying an old
install), turn indexing on for the GPL folder and modify the lastRasterizer
line in app.ini to read: lastRasterizerDLL = softdll.dll

It should run then.

Jan.
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by **Eldre** » Sat, 04 Dec 2004 02:22:15

Nah, I was trying to run it on my old system(98se) just to find the name of the
setting. GPL crashed then, and now it seems that Windows has simply melted
down. It worked this past weekend, I didn't change a THING, and now the damn
thing won't even BOOT.

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by J » Sat, 11 Dec 2004 18:00:22

You have 5 years to make up, good luck...
;-)
Good luck concerning your controller.

JS

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by **Laurence Wilme** » Mon, 03 Jan 2005 21:42:15

DXTweak2 may fix it.
I find I have to use it with different settings for RT, GPL etc
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