rec.autos.simulators

by **Brad Larocqu** » Wed, 17 Apr 2002 12:58:18

Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the
Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd
even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg.

system specs:

P3 600
128 MB RAM
NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB
how do I find what type of motherboard I've got?

by **Biz** » Wed, 17 Apr 2002 13:55:21

Neither unless you plan on upgrading that cpu anytime soon. Any card of that caliber is wasted on
that system. I have a PIII 600 as well, and those cards are way overkill. I bought a GF2 MX400
which is much better matched to the capabilities of the rest of your system.
--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash

> Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the
> Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd
> even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg.

> system specs:

> P3 600
> 128 MB RAM
> NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB
> how do I find what type of motherboard I've got?

by **Brad Larocqu** » Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:13:20

Thanks Biz, but what about a GF3 if I can find one?

> Neither unless you plan on upgrading that cpu anytime soon. Any card of that caliber is wasted on
> that system. I have a PIII 600 as well, and those cards are way overkill. I bought a GF2 MX400
> which is much better matched to the capabilities of the rest of your system.
> --
> Biz

> "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
> the....." - Ash

>>Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the
>>Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd
>>even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg.

>>system specs:

>>P3 600
>>128 MB RAM
>>NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB
>>how do I find what type of motherboard I've got?

by **Brad Larocqu** » Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:15:51

One other Q. What sort of fps are you getting and with what kind of
detail levels?
I'm curious for games like N4, GPL, F12001 (I still have cs2k myself but
using this for reference) any first person action games? (cant get away
from Jedi Knight 2 for anything at the moment).

> Neither unless you plan on upgrading that cpu anytime soon. Any card of that caliber is wasted on
> that system. I have a PIII 600 as well, and those cards are way overkill. I bought a GF2 MX400
> which is much better matched to the capabilities of the rest of your system.
> --
> Biz

> "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
> the....." - Ash

>>Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the
>>Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd
>>even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg.

>>system specs:

>>P3 600
>>128 MB RAM
>>NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB
>>how do I find what type of motherboard I've got?

by **Dave Henri** » Wed, 17 Apr 2002 14:22:28

Your cpu wouldn't do a GF4 justice. I will warn you away from the MX
versions of the GF4. It's really just an overclocked GF2 so it can't even
run all the DX8 features like the GF3 & (other)4's can.
A GF 3 ti 200 or 500 would be a good fit with your cpu....
Good luck.
dave henrie

> One other Q. What sort of fps are you getting and with what kind of
> detail levels?
> I'm curious for games like N4, GPL, F12001 (I still have cs2k myself but
> using this for reference) any first person action games? (cant get away
> from Jedi Knight 2 for anything at the moment).

> > Neither unless you plan on upgrading that cpu anytime soon. Any card of

that caliber is wasted on
overkill. I bought a GF2 MX400

> > which is much better matched to the capabilities of the rest of your
system.
> > --
> > Biz

> > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular
structures,....and
> > the....." - Ash

by **Steve Smit** » Wed, 17 Apr 2002 20:32:51

Depends on what yer playing. If you play mostly older games (GPL, NH, N4,
SCGT, Viper, etc.), then the best thing is to get the most GF2 you can
afford (the hottest GF2 was the Ultra, now well under $100). If you play
the latest games (basically, the ones that come with DX8.1 on the install
disc), then go for any GF3 but the totally lame MX series. The Raedon is a
good general-purpose choice, but not skewed as much toward *** as the
nVidia offerings.

> Your cpu wouldn't do a GF4 justice. I will warn you away from the MX
> versions of the GF4. It's really just an overclocked GF2 so it can't even
> run all the DX8 features like the GF3 & (other)4's can.
> A GF 3 ti 200 or 500 would be a good fit with your cpu....
> Good luck.
> dave henrie

> > One other Q. What sort of fps are you getting and with what kind of
> > detail levels?
> > I'm curious for games like N4, GPL, F12001 (I still have cs2k myself but
> > using this for reference) any first person action games? (cant get away
> > from Jedi Knight 2 for anything at the moment).

> > > Neither unless you plan on upgrading that cpu anytime soon. Any card
of
> that caliber is wasted on
> > > that system. I have a PIII 600 as well, and those cards are way
> overkill. I bought a GF2 MX400
> > > which is much better matched to the capabilities of the rest of your
> system.
> > > --
> > > Biz

> > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> > > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular
> structures,....and
> > > the....." - Ash

> > >>Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the
> > >>Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run.
I'd
> > >>even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg.

> > >>system specs:

> > >>P3 600
> > >>128 MB RAM
> > >>NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB
> > >>how do I find what type of motherboard I've got?

by **Robi** » Thu, 18 Apr 2002 01:03:21

OT...
You wouldn't be related to Denis in Jasper, would you?
Robin

by **Brad Larocqu** » Thu, 18 Apr 2002 02:19:02

Possible. My dad is just 1 of 15 kids (no twins either OUCH!) I'll check
it out

>>Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the
>>Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd
>>even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg.

>>system specs:

>>P3 600
>>128 MB RAM
>>NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB
>>how do I find what type of motherboard I've got?

> OT...
> You wouldn't be related to Denis in Jasper, would you?
> Robin

by **Robi** » Thu, 18 Apr 2002 04:07:07

Small (virtual) world if you are... Denis is a friend of mine and I guess
the last name could be common in certain areas but he's the only one in the
phonebook here. Moved here from Rainy River, I believe.
Robin

by **Bill Anderso** » Thu, 18 Apr 2002 04:08:22

I would wait for the GeForce4 Ti4200 which will be available at the end of
April, beginning of May. That's what I am going to replace my Voodoo 5500
AGP with. It will be available for ~$150 with 64MB.

Another good choice would be a GeForce3 Gainward Ti200 Golden Sample 64MB
(~$130).

I myself am considering both of these cards. I just recently upgraded mt

PC133). I am happy with the speed increase but the Voodoo is still holding
me back IMO especially graphically in Nascar 2002.

With your current processor and setup, I don't think you will see a big
difference between a GF3 and GF4 but if you plan on upgrading processor in
the future you might go GF4 Ti4200 since it is around$30-$50 more.

by **Brad Larocqu** » Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:01:35

If you mean Rainy River Ontario, then there is a BIG chance. My dad
comes from Pinewood, just down the road from Rainy River.

>>Possible. My dad is just 1 of 15 kids (no twins either OUCH!) I'll check
>>it out

> Small (virtual) world if you are... Denis is a friend of mine and I guess
> the last name could be common in certain areas but he's the only one in the
> phonebook here. Moved here from Rainy River, I believe.
> Robin

by **Brad Larocqu** » Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:03:50

Robin, I just checked with my dad. Denis is my dad's cousin's son.
Denis' brother Darcy was in a couple classes in univerity with me too

>>Possible. My dad is just 1 of 15 kids (no twins either OUCH!) I'll check
>>it out

> Small (virtual) world if you are... Denis is a friend of mine and I guess
> the last name could be common in certain areas but he's the only one in the
> phonebook here. Moved here from Rainy River, I believe.
> Robin

by **Robi** » Thu, 18 Apr 2002 08:12:36

Wow, if you ever see Darcy ask him if he remembers the guy at the Jasper
Heritage Folkfest who got him to get some info on the bands. I was working
for a local paper at the time and he wanted to get "backstage" so I gave him
my press pass and told him he had to earn it by getting me some info. Say hi
for me.
Regards,
Robin

by **Brad Larocqu** » Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:40:08

I was checking a local (and reputable) computer pasrts store website and
they have a MSI GE3 ti200 with 128MB DDR for $285 Cdn. They also have a
Hurcules GF3 Ti200 with 64 MB for $305. Obviously the MSI card is a
better deal, but is is a good card. SHould I keep looking?

> Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the
> Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd
> even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg.

> system specs:

> P3 600
> 128 MB RAM
> NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB
> how do I find what type of motherboard I've got?

by **Brad Larocqu** » Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:41:34

dammit! One thing I forgot to ask is with my system, would I get smooth
framerates on N4, GPL, NHL 2001, etc. with all settings maxed, or would
I still have to tone down some of the fine details?

> Radeon 8500(128 MB) or GF4 Ti 4600\4400. Costwise I'd go with the
> Radeon, but would I be better off with the GF card in the long run. I'd
> even condiser a GF3 if I could find one in Winnipeg.

> system specs:

> P3 600
> 128 MB RAM
> NVIDIA TNT2 Vanta card with 8MB
> how do I find what type of motherboard I've got?

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