rec.autos.simulators

pentium vs pro

dave p

pentium vs pro

by dave p » Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:00:00

Ive heard that the pentium pro computers are dogs when it comes to dos
related games. Does anyone have a pro, and could you tell me if this is
true. This could be the decision maker for  me if I should buy a pentium
pro or just a regular pentium.

Julian Da

pentium vs pro

by Julian Da » Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:00:00


:Ive heard that the pentium pro computers are dogs when it comes to dos
:related games. Does anyone have a pro, and could you tell me if this is
:true. This could be the decision maker for  me if I should buy a pentium
:pro or just a regular pentium.
:
Dave,

Actually the P6s fly in DOS games. You see alot of the games nowadays use "32
bit extenders" and only use 16 bit when "accessing" the hard drive.

Yes, there is a big difference from I have seen! ; )  I have a P6 overclocked to
a 233. I also have a P5200. There is a difference. Goto one one of the
benchmarking sites for Quake, since this game really burns on the pc. Compare
and see for yourself.

I in GP2, the P6 is slightly faster from what I have experienced..than the P5
200..

I did the comparison when both pcs were at 200 MHZ.. Just letting you know
that..

take care

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Greg Cisk

pentium vs pro

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 06 Nov 1996 04:00:00


> Ive heard that the pentium pro computers are dogs when it comes to dos
> related games. Does anyone have a pro, and could you tell me if this is
> true. This could be the decision maker for  me if I should buy a pentium
> pro or just a regular pentium.

I think you need to do more research. And not from this news group.
You would find that what you hear *used* to be true with the older
PPros.
Kai Lüb

pentium vs pro

by Kai Lüb » Thu, 07 Nov 1996 04:00:00



>:Ive heard that the pentium pro computers are dogs when it comes to dos
>:related games. Does anyone have a pro, and could you tell me if this is
>:true. This could be the decision maker for  me if I should buy a pentium
>:pro or just a regular pentium.
>:
>Dave,
>Actually the P6s fly in DOS games. You see alot of the games nowadays use "32
>bit extenders" and only use 16 bit when "accessing" the hard drive.
>Yes, there is a big difference from I have seen! ; )  I have a P6 overclocked to
>a 233. I also have a P5200. There is a difference. Goto one one of the
>benchmarking sites for Quake, since this game really burns on the pc. Compare
>and see for yourself.

The main reason for the P6's superiority with Quake is not the fact
that Quake runs in 32bit (via DOS extender), but the fact that Quake
heavily uses the FPU which is much more sophisticated in the P6
than in the Pentium (specFP about 2x the speed).

Your point is still correct, though, but you shouldn't expect so big
an improvement like the one in Quake with every game.

Good to know, that's something I've always been curious about.

Shep

Brian Wong - Enterprise Engineering - SMCC Serve

pentium vs pro

by Brian Wong - Enterprise Engineering - SMCC Serve » Fri, 08 Nov 1996 04:00:00





>>Ive heard that the pentium pro computers are dogs when it comes to dos
>>related games. Does anyone have a pro, and could you tell me if this is
>>true. This could be the decision maker for  me if I should buy a pentium
>>pro or just a regular pentium.

>I've got a 200 MHz Pro, and while it is not as fast as I would like
>(only 18.3 fps SVGA GP2 at Monaco with all detail except sky) it is
>not exactly what I would call a dog... I have seen a P120 too and there is
>*NO* comparison.  It runs ICR2 without Rendition at 24 fps most of the time,
>and 30fps ALL the time if you turn off grass and asphalt.  (I never do,
>though.)  Not what I'd like, but probably not what most people would call slow.

Uh, this is the PP200 that runs 24-30fps, *NOT* the P120.

Incidently, my PPro is one of the earliest ones (delivered back in April)
and it uses the older Orion chip set.  Newer ones have less memory latency
and thus would be somewhat better.
--

Brian Wong                              Enterprise Engineering

Brian Wong - Enterprise Engineering - SMCC Serve

pentium vs pro

by Brian Wong - Enterprise Engineering - SMCC Serve » Fri, 08 Nov 1996 04:00:00



>Ive heard that the pentium pro computers are dogs when it comes to dos
>related games. Does anyone have a pro, and could you tell me if this is
>true. This could be the decision maker for  me if I should buy a pentium
>pro or just a regular pentium.

I've got a 200 MHz Pro, and while it is not as fast as I would like
(only 18.3 fps SVGA GP2 at Monaco with all detail except sky) it is
not exactly what I would call a dog... I have seen a P120 too and there is
*NO* comparison.  It runs ICR2 without Rendition at 24 fps most of the time,
and 30fps ALL the time if you turn off grass and asphalt.  (I never do,
though.)  Not what I'd like, but probably not what most people would call
slow.

Right now I'd look carefully at pricing.  At 200MHz Pentium "classic"
with *equivalent* HW support is probably just as good as a 200 MHz Pro,
because many (most?) of the Pro chipsets are multiprocessor capable,
which does have a penalty in memory access time.  In a lot of cases,
that offsets the raw horsepower advantage of the Pro (in a lot of cases,
it doesn't, though).  At the moment I don't think there is a very big
difference in price between equivalently rigged P200 and PP200's.

--

Brian Wong                              Enterprise Engineering

Denni

pentium vs pro

by Denni » Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:00:00


> Ive heard that the pentium pro computers are dogs when it comes to dos
> related games. Does anyone have a pro, and could you tell me if this is
> true. This could be the decision maker for  me if I should buy a pentium
> pro or just a regular pentium.

Yes, a pro will be at least slightly faster than a similar Mhz pentium, and
sometimes it will be up to 50% faster. However, make sure that you don't get
a motherboard with the Orion chipset (particularly an early version). The
Natoma chipset (440FX) works well.
Hen

pentium vs pro

by Hen » Tue, 12 Nov 1996 04:00:00






> >>Ive heard that the pentium pro computers are dogs when it comes to dos
> >>related games. Does anyone have a pro, and could you tell me if this is
> >>true. This could be the decision maker for  me if I should buy a pentium
> >>pro or just a regular pentium.

> >I've got a 200 MHz Pro, and while it is not as fast as I would like
> >(only 18.3 fps SVGA GP2 at Monaco with all detail except sky) it is
> >not exactly what I would call a dog... I have seen a P120 too and there is
> >*NO* comparison.  It runs ICR2 without Rendition at 24 fps most of the time,
> >and 30fps ALL the time if you turn off grass and asphalt.  (I never do,
> >though.)  Not what I'd like, but probably not what most people would call slow.

> Uh, this is the PP200 that runs 24-30fps, *NOT* the P120.

Well, *MY* P120 runs ICR2 at 30fps with all the textures on, full
field, 3D textured mirrors ... with my Rendition chip ... :-)

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