Nice to hear a reply fom someone who really did race cars in '67. I like GPL
because of it's time setting. Must be a blast for you.
I know the grip levels between then and now are vastly different but the
drifts just seem to last too long. Hopefully I'll get to see some old videos
of the races at Watkin's Glen to see how they compare to this sim.
Now here's where I offend some people. :-) I mention Alex Zanardi in my
original post and I mentioned Greg Moore in a response to John Wallace's
earlier posting defending Papyrus's decision to not include weather with
GPL. The reason I mention these pro drivers is this. What we all talk about
on r.a.s. and enjoy so much may be called sims, but they are still games.
Sorry, it's true. I'm as serious about sims as all of you, and I do some
beta testing and take that seriously too, but I don't kid myself. When I can
sit down at GPL, which most are gushing about it's realism and accuracy, and
are using to criticize other sims, and on my eighth lap be able to do a
1'20" and then within a few hours be able to do a sub 1'10', this isn't
realistic by any stretch of the imagination. There is NO WAY in hell I'd be
able to get in a real '67 GP Lotus at that track and get anywhere near those
times. Either will anyone else here at r.a.s. Sims are still games even at
their best. That's why I think someone like Greg Moore would smile and say
to go ahead and put weather in and stop trying to believe that this sim is
so realistic that it's impossible to include weather at this time. It's NOT.
It is possible to over analyze and complicate matters and it's happening
with this issue.
There's two reasons why I defend CPR (and other sims) on r.a.s when someone
unfairly rips into them. First, I think the car physics feel more realistic
than any other sim I've tried, including GPL. My learning curve with GPL was
actually quicker than CPR. F1 was the easiest of all. In CPR, even though I
can hang in with all but the very best drivers (Sandman is one I can't/never
will beat), I still would not say that I have mastered the sim even after 5
1/2 months. Second, a group of people work on these sims for months and
months and then someone just calls it trash, because it, or parts of it are
not real enough for them. NONE of these sims are real. If anyone thinks they
can drive a real F1, CART, or 67 Lotus based on what they do in a sim then
they have real dillusions of grandeur. I get a laugh at some of the postings
I read here.
I'd like to see full weather, not just rain, in GPL because it adds elements
like vision impairment from sun glare and water spray, shortened viewing
distance with fog, grip level changes, and temperature changes which should
effect speed. Also, visually, the sim would just plain look better and give
a more realistic feeling of being outdoors and not in front of my computer.
F1 does this very well and in a racing game coming soon from MS, the weather
effects are stunning.
>Having now tried the demo I can understand why Papyrus have not included
any ad
The real drivers did have to race in the rain, right? If you think it would
be almost impossible to drive in the rain in GPL and you wouldn't want to
even bother based on what we've seen so far, then aren't the grip levels in
dry conditions too loose? Weather adds a lot to a sim IMO.
Dave (DmndDave)
