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Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

Tom Li

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by Tom Li » Mon, 28 Apr 1997 04:00:00





> > > > I can run GP2 at full detail with 25 fps with no trouble.

> > > > I have an AMD K6-200, Abit It5H motherboard,  32 megs RAM, Matrox
> > > > Mystique video.

> > > > GP2 suggested fram rat is 22 or 23, but I crank it up to 25 and it works
> > > > great.


> > > But how is it in Monaco????
> > > And how much does you CPU need to work?

> > > Frode Dufey

> > Like he said, I also can run Gp2 with no trouble at 25fps.  Anyone can
> > do this.  I have a P100.  Just put all graphics ON and put the framerate
> > at 25.  But look out for the gameplay.  It will take you 10minutes to do
> > a lap.   :)

> Well  10min to get around the track... that is NOT what i had i mind..
> I mean to have 25fpm, but still keep the load on the processor under
> 100%!!!!!!!

> Frode Dufey

I am running it at 19.6%fpm..it looks great. At 25%fpm, everything
suxs.. how do you get 25%fpm, you turned everything off??
Frode Dufe

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by Frode Dufe » Mon, 28 Apr 1997 04:00:00






> > > > > I can run GP2 at full detail with 25 fps with no trouble.

> > > > > I have an AMD K6-200, Abit It5H motherboard,  32 megs RAM, Matrox
> > > > > Mystique video.

> > > > > GP2 suggested fram rat is 22 or 23, but I crank it up to 25 and it works
> > > > > great.


> > > > But how is it in Monaco????
> > > > And how much does you CPU need to work?

> > > > Frode Dufey

> > > Like he said, I also can run Gp2 with no trouble at 25fps.  Anyone can
> > > do this.  I have a P100.  Just put all graphics ON and put the framerate
> > > at 25.  But look out for the gameplay.  It will take you 10minutes to do
> > > a lap.   :)

> > Well  10min to get around the track... that is NOT what i had i mind..
> > I mean to have 25fpm, but still keep the load on the processor under
> > 100%!!!!!!!

> > Frode Dufey

> I am running it at 19.6%fpm..it looks great. At 25%fpm, everything
> suxs.. how do you get 25%fpm, you turned everything off??

From this point, it looks like the Cyrix M2 will be the best CPU for GP2
it runs on 100Mhz on the bus...
Steffen Schlei

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by Steffen Schlei » Tue, 29 Apr 1997 04:00:00

If that thing could run GP2 in full detail, I bought it already.

Gp2 cannot use more than one cpu and it takes no advantage to 40MB ram
on the video card.

The PPro 200 is in GP2 not faster than the 225 Pentium MMX
(overclocked).

Steffen Schleier

Steffen Schlei

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by Steffen Schlei » Tue, 29 Apr 1997 04:00:00


>Buy a Cray super-computer :)
>Seriously, I found a place near my house who boost computers.  big
>boosting.  for 12000$ can, you can have a dual pentium pro 200mhz with
>40meg VIDEO CARD !!!!!, 128meg Sdram, 18x cd-rom, SB AWE64 gold,
>etc,etc.  If this cannot run GP2 with full detail, who will :)  I think
>the only problem is that it come with NT4.0, wich AFAIK run Gp2 slower.
>Thanks a lot,

If that thing could run GP2 with full detail, I bought it already.

but Gp2 can use only one CPU and it takes no advantage of 40 MB on the
video card.

And the PPro 200  is not faster than a 225 Mhz Pentium MMX
(overclocked)!!! (in GP2)

Steffen Schleier

Mark McCa

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by Mark McCa » Sun, 04 May 1997 04:00:00

(Snip)

Yesterday I saw GP2 on the new Pentium II.
We were getting 145% processor occupance in Monaco with all detail on
in SVGA!!!!

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Steven Becke

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by Steven Becke » Sun, 04 May 1997 04:00:00



> (Snip)

> >And the PPro 200  is not faster than a 225 Mhz Pentium MMX
> >(overclocked)!!! (in GP2)

> >Steffen Schleier

> Yesterday I saw GP2 on the new Pentium II.
> We were getting 145% processor occupance in Monaco with all detail on
> in SVGA!!!!

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I am running a k6200 with 64 meg of sdram on an mti r534 mobo with the
ati 3dxpression+pc2tv 4meg vid card.  I can run 16fps with full detail
at monaco and less than 100% occupancy(except when there's smoke or cars
right in front).  I run the k6 at 225mhz with 3x75mhz bus speed.  steve

ps I saw the 8meg version of STB Velocity 3d at Best Buy for $149 this
week.  It may have been mislabeled though because they had three shelf
labels, two were for 149, and one for 299(all for the 8meg version).

CarloSa

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by CarloSa » Sun, 04 May 1997 04:00:00

You must be in VGA. I have a p200 and i use 17fps with most things on and
only smoke in the mirrors. It maintains less than 100% at almost all
tracks litteraly all the time (maybe 116 percent on start grid dropping to
about 70 to 90 in race).
This setup exludes Monaco.

Incidently I clocked it as a P188 at 75mhz bus made no noticable
difference i felt the p200 at 66mhz option was better.

I have ran gp2 at all different setups and processor frequencys and i
found the above set up the best otherwise you get slowdown at the start of
the race or at the very graphical italian gps


FORZA FERRARI

Frode Dufe

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by Frode Dufe » Sun, 04 May 1997 04:00:00


> You must be in VGA. I have a p200 and i use 17fps with most things on and
> only smoke in the mirrors. It maintains less than 100% at almost all
> tracks litteraly all the time (maybe 116 percent on start grid dropping to
> about 70 to 90 in race).
> This setup exludes Monaco.

> Incidently I clocked it as a P188 at 75mhz bus made no noticable
> difference i felt the p200 at 66mhz option was better.

> I have ran gp2 at all different setups and processor frequencys and i
> found the above set up the best otherwise you get slowdown at the start of
> the race or at the very graphical italian gps


> FORZA FERRARI

The AMD K6 is a better CPU than Intel, it runs on a higher bus Freq, and
you can clearly see the difference.
I got a Ppro 200, and i got to admit that the K6 beats the shit out of
intel in GP2.
I just cant wait until M2 is on the market. it runs on a 100MHz bus
freq.

Frode Dufey

Steven Becke

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by Steven Becke » Sun, 04 May 1997 04:00:00


> You must be in VGA. I have a p200 and i use 17fps with most things on and
> only smoke in the mirrors. It maintains less than 100% at almost all
> tracks litteraly all the time (maybe 116 percent on start grid dropping to
> about 70 to 90 in race).
> This setup exludes Monaco.

> Incidently I clocked it as a P188 at 75mhz bus made no noticable
> difference i felt the p200 at 66mhz option was better.

> I have ran gp2 at all different setups and processor frequencys and i
> found the above set up the best otherwise you get slowdown at the start of
> the race or at the very graphical italian gps


> FORZA FERRARI


improvement with the 75mhz bus speed.  My amd k6 200 runs about the same
at both 187 and 200, but 225 is a huge improvement.  Good luck, Steve
Ray

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by Ray » Sun, 04 May 1997 04:00:00



> (Snip)

> >And the PPro 200  is not faster than a 225 Mhz Pentium MMX
> >(overclocked)!!! (in GP2)

> >Steffen Schleier

> Yesterday I saw GP2 on the new Pentium II.
> We were getting 145% processor occupance in Monaco with all detail on
> in SVGA!!!!

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Visit The UK Home Automation Web Site...
> http://www.btinternet.com/~uk.homeautomation/
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Did they have any utility like "Fastvid" applied to enable "PCI Write
Caching"?
brand..

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by brand.. » Mon, 05 May 1997 04:00:00


>Incidently I clocked it as a P188 at 75mhz bus made no noticable
>difference i felt the p200 at 66mhz option was better.

>I have ran gp2 at all different setups and processor frequencys and i
>found the above set up the best otherwise you get slowdown at the start of
>the race or at the very graphical italian gps





CarloSa

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by CarloSa » Mon, 05 May 1997 04:00:00


writes:

who is this ***
Ive got a P200 and 32mb ram and it still sucks

FORZA FERRARI

CarloSa

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by CarloSa » Mon, 05 May 1997 04:00:00



>I can run GP2 at full detail with 25 fps with no trouble.

>I have an AMD K6-200, Abit It5H motherboard,  32 megs RAM, Matrox
>Mystique video.

>GP2 suggested fram rat is 22 or 23, but I crank it up to 25 and it works
>great.

Bullshit    Bullshit  and i say it again  Bullshit

unless you mean Vga or svga at 300%

FORZA FERRARI

L T Memo

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by L T Memo » Thu, 08 May 1997 04:00:00

Gentlemen:
     I own a business and the first thing I have to remember in business
is that advertising is the key, as well as repeat business.  All we have
to do is boycott the company MICROPROSE and use as much negative word of
mouth advertising and information passing to each and every person we talk
to, and believe me in time MICROPROSE will start to feel the pinch.  No
company is too good to blatantly lie to the buying public about the
requirements to make a product work properly and it not deliver and then
do absolutely nothing about it and THEN expect to snowball the public into
thinking it has the best simulation on the market
     It isn't by a long shot when it will not do what was promised.  Truth
in advertising laws are there to protect the consumers and the buying
public from such behavior by a manufacturer.  Perhaps if some inventive
attorney decided to legally put some heat on these clowns and make them
SHOW us that the game will perform as promised on the "required" computer
setup on the outside of the box, with no tweaks or internal "gamesmanship"
by their people, but get an off the shelf computer with the information
panel's settings and build requirements, and run it as we as consumers
would.
     At that point, perhaps whiz-kid Geoff could at that point finish what
he started and do his job as expected by the buying public, get off his
lazy a** and come out with a patch that makes the thing work as THEY
promised it would in the first place.
     Negative publicity holds a very strong place in the eyes of the
comsumers anymore.  I will not buy another MICROPROSE product-------ever!
I am disappointed that such a thing can happen and then the representative
literally writes a commentary in this newsgroup that you have to do this
and do that and compromise here and give a little bit there.   NO DICE pal
----- I didn't buy this game to listen to some two-bit public relations
man ramble about how great a defective product is.  If I want that I will
go to your REAL EQUIVALENT -- and go to a USED CAR LOT ----  at least when
you buy one of those the secnery and the mirrors and everything else HAS
all the details and with much better quality than your product ----AND
-------- you can buy extended service policies that will REPAIR DEFECTIVE
ASPECTS OF THE PRODUCT I JUST BOUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
     If MICROPROSE is too busy spending money on the next generation of a
simulator to fix the present one , then let the BAS***DS eat the next
generation of the simulation -----  when layoffs and reduced revenue start
showing up on their doorstep then maybe they will have learned the most
important lesson of business that they don't seem to grasp at this time
------ the most important customer is the one who ALREADY OWNS YOUR
PRODUCT--- and is happy with it!!!!!

Tero Paanan

Who is running GP2 in SVGA full details at 25 fps ???

by Tero Paanan » Fri, 09 May 1997 04:00:00


Of course it will sell and as always, it will include bugs in it and
there will once again be a growing number of people that will be
dissapointed.

I personally, as stated before, will not spend money on GP3. I will
play it, but Microprose will not get a cent from me.

A company not listening to complaints - abusive or not - from its
customers will be in trouble sooner or later.

So we should all kiss their ass in awe that they take the time to
produce software for all of us?

I'm sorry, but their products have problems, some minor, some not
so minor and quite frankly their attitude to not even bother fixing
them is bad, bad customer service. And because of that, I'm sorry, I
will continue complaining wherever I can.

I don't see complaining about their products in this newsgroup
a waste of time, it's a fact that their repsentatives read the
newsgroups. Now, to get them to *do* something, that's something
else.

                                -TPP


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