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N4 rankings question

Todd Kelle

N4 rankings question

by Todd Kelle » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 00:22:35

Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4.  I have got to find out how
far I am from my next point.  Didn't see anything on it in the manual.

Thanks

teemone

N4 rankings question

by teemone » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 00:39:01

No one knows.  Papy won't tell us.


superfrea

N4 rankings question

by superfrea » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 00:39:04


Why don't you try finishing races and not wall riding.

John Payn

N4 rankings question

by John Payn » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 00:47:24

Why don't you try finishing races and not wall riding.

I believe he was just kidding :)

Todd Kelle

N4 rankings question

by Todd Kelle » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 01:15:38

superfreak likes young boys...oh yeah and he wrecks people on purpose:)



> > Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4.  I have got to find out
how
> > far I am from my next point.  Didn't see anything on it in the manual.

> > Thanks

> Why don't you try finishing races and not wall riding.

Dog-Le

N4 rankings question

by Dog-Le » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 02:50:01

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If you find out, tell the other million of us.  Papy will not breath word
one about this, and we know damned well they have seen the outcry for an
explanation page for the Rankings.

I am very dissapointed in their handling of this issue.

-Larry


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ymenar

N4 rankings question

by ymenar » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 04:10:37


> Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4.  I have got to find out how
> far I am from my next point.

Control-Shift while your in your information tab inside N4 is as far as we
know.  It's very close to the NROS in terms of how you go up a skill.  We
shall just ignore the stats for the moment.  Papyrus has just not yet
implemented them fully.  Wait until the patch.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Dog-Le

N4 rankings question

by Dog-Le » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 04:17:59

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Frank,

What he wants, and what we ALL want, is a document, web page, scrawlings in
the sand, whatever that breaks down this ranking system, how you are scored,
damage points system, etc...

The numbers mean nothing right now because we don't know what was done to
_get_ the numbers.

NROS had a specific web page that explained, in detail, the ranking systems.

My preference is to have no less available for the current system.

-Larry



> > Where do ya find the rankings breakdown in N4.  I have got to find out
how
> > far I am from my next point.

> Control-Shift while your in your information tab inside N4 is as far as we
> know.  It's very close to the NROS in terms of how you go up a skill.  We
> shall just ignore the stats for the moment.  Papyrus has just not yet
> implemented them fully.  Wait until the patch.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
> hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

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ymenar

N4 rankings question

by ymenar » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 04:44:52


> What he wants, and what we ALL want, is a document, web page, scrawlings
in
> the sand, whatever that breaks down this ranking system, how you are
scored,
> damage points system, etc...

Like I said, there is none, "at the moment".  Let's remember N4 is just a
couple of weeks old, and hasn't got patched officially yet.  Be sure that
Papyrus knows all about the situation, and that what you see is just a
preview of the real statistics.  We will all have a rundown on what exactly
makes us go up a skill.  It's still VERY similar to the NROS, almost the
same thing.  Somebody could just read the NROS rule and have a 95% idea on
the N4 stats.

It's all a matter of finishing ahead of drivers with better skills.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Mark Lierma

N4 rankings question

by Mark Lierma » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 04:43:40


It pisses me off.  Here I drive in a Nascar club and wuld consider myself to be
a good driver.  Not the fastest, but rarely get involved in mistakes on the
track.  Yet here I run in a few daytona online races and get crashed out on the
starts by a bunch of idiots that try to pass on the start.  next race I am
getting passed in turn 3 at Daytona 3 a*** and both people on each side of
me warp and I get a BF out of nowhere.

No my rating is 28lpi and I can't race on any of the brickserver races.

WTF?  Some good damn game penalizes me because a bunch of retards are on open
races and enjoy causing wrecks.

COME ON PAPY....

Michael Barlo

N4 rankings question

by Michael Barlo » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 05:12:04

    Just out of curiosity, (and that I've forgotten some of what was
calculated)  Didn't NROS calculate your wining positions in your rankings?
If I remember right, they did, please correct me if I'm wrong.  Any case,
that was one of the biggest things I absolutely hated about NROS rankings.
You could have an LPI of 50,000,000 but because you never finished a race
above 20th position, you had a relative bad rank.  Err..  You were penalized
for finishing last.  I'm still getting used to N4 and I do enjoy an
occasional Dega or daytona race.  Although I am never the cause of the
wrecks to my knolage, I am still involved with them and end up getting
points reduced.  I don't mind this,  what I don't like is also having points
reduced because I finished in 15th because of that/those wrecks.  I'm
assuming they are calculated in the final rankings because of the negative
numbers I get after each race.

    If it were up to me, LPI would be calculated completely and totally
separate from the final rankings.  Same with the finishing positions,
completely and totally separate from the final rankings.  Same with the X
and the Y and so forth.  Each thing that is calculated should have a rank in
it's own and we should *not* have an over all rank.  but that's my opinion.

(btw: 5xx.xx lpi at the moment)



>> What he wants, and what we ALL want, is a document, web page, scrawlings
>in
>> the sand, whatever that breaks down this ranking system, how you are
>scored,
>> damage points system, etc...

>Like I said, there is none, "at the moment".  Let's remember N4 is just a
>couple of weeks old, and hasn't got patched officially yet.  Be sure that
>Papyrus knows all about the situation, and that what you see is just a
>preview of the real statistics.  We will all have a rundown on what exactly
>makes us go up a skill.  It's still VERY similar to the NROS, almost the
>same thing.  Somebody could just read the NROS rule and have a 95% idea on
>the N4 stats.

>> The numbers mean nothing right now because we don't know what was done to
>> _get_ the numbers.

>It's all a matter of finishing ahead of drivers with better skills.

>--
>-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
>-- May the Downforce be with you...
>-- http://www.ymenard.com/
>-- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
>hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Dog-Le

N4 rankings question

by Dog-Le » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 05:57:25

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It would be nice if Papy would acknowledge that they acknowledge :)

As best I can tell, they have side-stepped ALL inquiries into this, like
it's a big secret or something.

-Larry



> > What he wants, and what we ALL want, is a document, web page, scrawlings
> in
> > the sand, whatever that breaks down this ranking system, how you are
> scored,
> > damage points system, etc...

> Like I said, there is none, "at the moment".  Let's remember N4 is just a
> couple of weeks old, and hasn't got patched officially yet.  Be sure that
> Papyrus knows all about the situation, and that what you see is just a
> preview of the real statistics.  We will all have a rundown on what
exactly
> makes us go up a skill.  It's still VERY similar to the NROS, almost the
> same thing.  Somebody could just read the NROS rule and have a 95% idea on
> the N4 stats.

> > The numbers mean nothing right now because we don't know what was done
to
> > _get_ the numbers.

> It's all a matter of finishing ahead of drivers with better skills.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how
> hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

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Dave Cas

N4 rankings question

by Dave Cas » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 06:17:31

Welcome to the world of online racing.  As long as we have open races that
anyone can join, we're going to have morons that learned their races skills
and etiquette in the Quake arena.  This is the biggest reason I hardly ever
race the open races anymore, confining myself mostly to league races.  At
least then I know who I'm racing against.

Dave Casey
Casey#9 (NASCAR Racing 4)
www.teamcasey.net
www.lvkc.com
www.buycoolcrap.com

Dave Cas

N4 rankings question

by Dave Cas » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 06:21:20

Excuse me but isn't this the whole idea behind strapping a helmet on and going
racing?  The higher up the leader board you finish, the better your rankings?  
Yes, I believe I read that somewhere.

Dave Casey
Casey#9 (NASCAR Racing 4)
www.teamcasey.net
www.lvkc.com
www.buycoolcrap.com

Michael Barlo

N4 rankings question

by Michael Barlo » Sun, 04 Mar 2001 06:21:56

    hmm..  didn't think about this till just now.  We used to be able to run
two (or more) ID's on TEN.  We would run one for pickup races and one for
League races.  Has anyone tried to setup a second account on here yet?  I'm
wondering if I did set up a second account, would it take everything from my
old account and transfer it?  Or, Would it delete my old account and start a
fresh new account?  or, would I have the availability to run either or
account at will?


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