rec.autos.simulators

by **Lannie Schafrot** » Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:44:21

OK, maybe some of you have seen this.

I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am
using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great.
However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not accessible.

It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the
disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a 98
boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into
regular XP mode, nothing.

The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all the
patches on the newsgroups. Nothing.

Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the new
one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original)

Lannie

PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives I
have lying around. Same thing on all of them.

by **MadDAW** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:27:53

Just a shot but have you tried putting the CDRom on the same IDE controller
that the CDRW was on? If it works it still wouldn't cure the long term
problem, but would get you by for now.

MadDAWG

by **GTX_SlotCa** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:38:17

Another thought. Just for kicks, try booting with a cd in the drive and see
if it helps.

--
Slot

Tweaks & Reviews
www.slottweak.com

by **Lannie Schafrot** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:40:07

Yes, I've tried every Salve/master combination on both controllers. It's a
known bug in XP, but non eof the current fixes works for me.

by **Dave Henri** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 02:00:33

"Lannie Schafroth"
(snippage)
You can play Nr2k2 OFFline with a nocd patch available at theuspits and
other places. Cain't help ya with the XP problems since I'm still using the
out-of-favor win98SE.
dave henrie

by **Lannie Schafrot** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 01:32:19

Done that..doesn't work.

> Another thought. Just for kicks, try booting with a cd in the drive and
see
> if it helps.

> --
> Slot

> Tweaks & Reviews
> www.slottweak.com

> > OK, maybe some of you have seen this.

> > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am
> > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great.
> > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not
accessible.

> > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the
> > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a
98
> > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into
> > regular XP mode, nothing.

> > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all
> the
> > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing.

> > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the
> new
> > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original)

> > Lannie

> > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives
I
> > have lying around. Same thing on all of them.

by **MadDAW** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 03:24:05

You'd thing a service pack would fix that kind of stuff instead of busting
crackers.

MadDAWG

by **Lannie Schafrot** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 02:47:27

I don't ever use NR2k2 offline. :( It's only use is online....

by **Larr** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:05:16

My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering.

If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I
would look there first.

It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directors from
the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries).

Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's.

This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as possible
and doesn't***with stuff.

-Larry

by **Biz** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:45:09

What is this known bug you are talking about, I've NEVER seen any mention of it anywhere? You may
just have a cdrom drive that can't deal with the securom technology on the disk. And your comment
about never running N2002 off-line, how did you establish your baseline setups b4 getting in
everyones way on-line? Anyone with any respect for others must run some off-line at least when it
was new just to get used to the driveing model and new setups, etc...
--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash

--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash

> Yes, I've tried every Salve/master combination on both controllers. It's a
> known bug in XP, but non eof the current fixes works for me.

> > Just a shot but have you tried putting the CDRom on the same IDE
> controller
> > that the CDRW was on? If it works it still wouldn't cure the long term
> > problem, but would get you by for now.

> > MadDAWG

by **Glen Pittma** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 07:27:33

Sounds similar to the problems people were having with Nero, before the 5.5
version. It was adding Registry entries that hosed the drives, and the
solution was to remove those entries. I found info on this at Microsofts
site I believe. The entries are something about upper limits and lower
limits.

Buy now that I think about it, the drives wouldn't even show up in Windows
Explorer with that problem.

Glen

> Yes, I've tried every Salve/master combination on both controllers. It's
a
> known bug in XP, but non eof the current fixes works for me.

> > Just a shot but have you tried putting the CDRom on the same IDE
> controller
> > that the CDRW was on? If it works it still wouldn't cure the long term
> > problem, but would get you by for now.

> > MadDAWG

by **Glen Pittma** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 07:29:41

I had the same problems from Nero until they released a version compatible
with XP.

> My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering.

> If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I
> would look there first.

> It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directors
from
> the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries).

> Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's.

> This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as possible
> and doesn't***with stuff.

> -Larry

> > OK, maybe some of you have seen this.

> > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am
> > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great.
> > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not
accessible.

> > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the
> > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a
98
> > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into
> > regular XP mode, nothing.

> > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all
> the
> > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing.

> > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the
> new
> > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original)

> > Lannie

> > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives
I
> > have lying around. Same thing on all of them.

by **Lannie Schafrot** » Fri, 27 Sep 2002 22:46:07

I am using the latest version of Nero. I've uninstalled all CDR software,
tried the upper/lower buffer fix, uninstalled the IDE controller,
uninstalled the CDROM drives. Nothing work. The drives work great in Safe
Mode but not in a regular mode.

> My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering.

> If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I
> would look there first.

> It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directors
from
> the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries).

> Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's.

> This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as possible
> and doesn't***with stuff.

> -Larry

> > OK, maybe some of you have seen this.

> > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I am
> > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked great.
> > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not
accessible.

> > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert the
> > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with a
98
> > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot into
> > regular XP mode, nothing.

> > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried all
> the
> > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing.

> > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until the
> new
> > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original)

> > Lannie

> > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare drives
I
> > have lying around. Same thing on all of them.

by **Don** » Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:32:48

If your drive works in Safe Mode but not Normal Mode, it's obviously a
driver issue. We've seen in our shop some CDRW's won't work with a hard
drive slaved to them, but ONLY on Intel D850E boards. They work fine if a
CD's slaved to them. I see that you've "tried every slave/master
combination, but no luck."
I'd like to know about the "known bug" you mention; I install XP on nearly a
daily basis and except for the aforementioned CDRW/CD problem, it's worked
just fine.

Gunner

> I am using the latest version of Nero. I've uninstalled all CDR software,
> tried the upper/lower buffer fix, uninstalled the IDE controller,
> uninstalled the CDROM drives. Nothing work. The drives work great in
Safe
> Mode but not in a regular mode.

> > My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering.

> > If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I
> > would look there first.

> > It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directors
> from
> > the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries).

> > Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's.

> > This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as
possible
> > and doesn't***with stuff.

> > -Larry

> > > OK, maybe some of you have seen this.

> > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I
am
> > > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked
great.
> > > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not
> accessible.

> > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert
the
> > > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with
a
> 98
> > > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot
into
> > > regular XP mode, nothing.

> > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried
all
> > the
> > > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing.

> > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until
the
> > new
> > > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original)

> > > Lannie

> > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare
drives
> I
> > > have lying around. Same thing on all of them.

by **Larr** » Sat, 28 Sep 2002 23:27:13

Hmmm.... You still have something interfering there, but I don't know what
it is...

Have you installed any Microsoft "Hot Fixes" related to CDR drives? If so,
try removing them.

-Larry

> I am using the latest version of Nero. I've uninstalled all CDR software,
> tried the upper/lower buffer fix, uninstalled the IDE controller,
> uninstalled the CDROM drives. Nothing work. The drives work great in
Safe
> Mode but not in a regular mode.

> > My first guess would be that you have some CDR software interfering.

> > If you have installed, and then uninstalled, any CDR software recently I
> > would look there first.

> > It seems that many CDR packages don't remove their driver re-directors
> from
> > the registry properly (Upperfilter/Lowerfilter entries).

> > Adaptec EasyCD Creator is one culprit, and so is Stomp's.

> > This is why I like Nero. Nero treats your system as hands-off as
possible
> > and doesn't***with stuff.

> > -Larry

> > > OK, maybe some of you have seen this.

> > > I have a 48XCDROM and a CDRW drive as well as my HD and ZIP drive. I
am
> > > using all four IDE devices. When I installed XP, the 48X worked
great.
> > > However, now that XP is installed and running, the 48X is not
> accessible.

> > > It shows up in explorer and when you click on it, it says to insert
the
> > > disc. If I boot in safe mode it reads disk just fine. If I boot with
a
> 98
> > > boot disk and run the CDROM utilities, it works great. Once I boot
into
> > > regular XP mode, nothing.

> > > The CDRW works fine. I uninstalled Nero, CloneCD & ClonyXXL. Tried
all
> > the
> > > patches on the newsgroups. Nothing.

> > > Any ideas? I can no longer play NR2k2 since I removed my CDRW until
the
> > new
> > > one arrives in a week or two. (sold the original)

> > > Lannie

> > > PS I've been without my 48x for 8 months now. Tried 7 other spare
drives
> I
> > > have lying around. Same thing on all of them.

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