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by **Marc Collin** » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:20:40

I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess the
real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then.

Marc

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by **GBB** » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:29:53

It realy is beond a joke, ok maybe to improve the AI would proably be a
major undertakeing and wouldn't be worth the cost but they should be at
least fix the problems like having to run Killhelp.exe after playing F1RC if
you have DX8+ to properly shut down DirectX.

As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!"

Alex

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by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:45:41

Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the
first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember, nobody
twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place.
dave henrie

> It realy is beond a joke, ok maybe to improve the AI would proably be a
> major undertakeing and wouldn't be worth the cost but they should be at
> least fix the problems like having to run Killhelp.exe after playing F1RC
if
> you have DX8+ to properly shut down DirectX.

> As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!"

> Alex

> > I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess
the
> > real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then.

> > Marc

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by **GBB** » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:10:57

That's what I was saying improving the AI would take a long time but they
should at least patch the game so it properly exits from DirectX, any
reasonable programer with a knowlage of the DirectX SDK and the games sorce
code could probably fix it in 5 minutes.

> Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the
> first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember,
nobody
> twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place.
> dave henrie

> > It realy is beond a joke, ok maybe to improve the AI would proably be a
> > major undertakeing and wouldn't be worth the cost but they should be at
> > least fix the problems like having to run Killhelp.exe after playing
F1RC
> if
> > you have DX8+ to properly shut down DirectX.

> > As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!"

> > Alex

> > > I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess
> the
> > > real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then.

> > > Marc

> > > --

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by **Thom j** » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:01:19

1/2 finished.. touche` :)

| Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the
| first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember,
nobody
| twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place.
| dave henrie

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by **0x4E0x6F0x7** » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:06:29

>> Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the
>> first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember,
>nobody
>> twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place.
>> dave henrie

No, but Ubisoft did lie to us and say there would be a patch released
in April. I'm sure many people bought the sim based on that promise. I
didn't because I figured they were bullshitting right from the start.
Damn frenchies.

by **J. P. Hovercraf** » Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:25:28

The patch is in your mouth....it's sorta like "I promise not to come in the
mail"...

8^)

J. P. Hovercraft

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> I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess the
> real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then.

> Marc

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by **John Bod** » Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:07:23

Good point, Dave, but remember, Hasbro and MGI *gave* us a patch for
the AI for free -- they didn't package it and sell it to us as a
retail "NASCAR Heat 2" product. Plus, look at everything else that
the MGI people have given us in terms of mod tools and such. They
REALLY care about their customers.

Ubisoft, on the other hand, sends threatening legal notices to
Websites working on third-party add-ons for F1RC.

Quite a contrast there . . .

;-)

-- JB (ducking and running)

> Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the
>first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember, nobody
>twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place.
>dave henrie

>> It realy is beond a joke, ok maybe to improve the AI would proably be a
>> major undertakeing and wouldn't be worth the cost but they should be at
>> least fix the problems like having to run Killhelp.exe after playing F1RC
>if
>> you have DX8+ to properly shut down DirectX.

>> As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!"

>> Alex

>> > I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess
>the
>> > real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then.

>> > Marc

>> > --

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>> > to take effect. Reboot now?

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by **Iain Mackenzi** » Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:26:03

The situation with the patch is very disappointing. However, your point
about Ubisoft is unfair. Throughout Pod, F1RS, and MGPRS2 Ubi had excellent
support, and the thing about threatening legal action and third party addons
was directed only at one site that was affiliated to them.
Iain

> Good point, Dave, but remember, Hasbro and MGI *gave* us a patch for
> the AI for free -- they didn't package it and sell it to us as a
> retail "NASCAR Heat 2" product. Plus, look at everything else that
> the MGI people have given us in terms of mod tools and such. They
> REALLY care about their customers.

> Ubisoft, on the other hand, sends threatening legal notices to
> Websites working on third-party add-ons for F1RC.

> Quite a contrast there . . .

> ;-)

> -- JB (ducking and running)

> > Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the
> >first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember,
nobody
> >twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place.
> >dave henrie

> >> It realy is beond a joke, ok maybe to improve the AI would proably be a
> >> major undertakeing and wouldn't be worth the cost but they should be at
> >> least fix the problems like having to run Killhelp.exe after playing
F1RC
> >if
> >> you have DX8+ to properly shut down DirectX.

> >> As Ian Brown one said "Amateurs! Amateurs!"

> >> Alex

> >> > I would love to keep posting this every couple of months, but I guess
> >the
> >> > real patch (F1RC2) will be out by then.

> >> > Marc

> >> > --

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by **Graeme Nas** » Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:22:19

lol, monkeyman taking on Ubisoft is something I'd like to see :-)

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by **Thom j** » Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:02:09

Yea!! Where the **hell** is the F1RC patch? :)

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by **Marc Collin** » Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:52:49

Unfortunately for me, I am not as good at detecting bullshit as you. I
bought it based on the promise of the patch...kept waiting...and of course
now it is too late to return it.

Marc.

> >> Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get the
> >> first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember,
> >nobody
> >> twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place.
> >> dave henrie

> No, but Ubisoft did lie to us and say there would be a patch released
> in April. I'm sure many people bought the sim based on that promise. I
> didn't because I figured they were bullshitting right from the start.
> Damn frenchies.

by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:42:12

I can't detect bs any better than the next guy...what I do know is....Soda
was released with a 3dfx patch already in the works and due anyday....Red
Baron 2 had 3d, then it didn't, then it did, then it got cancelled, then it
got restarted and 3d added. Then they patched the whole schmozle and
renamed it slightly. I could go on, but the point is...never buy something
based on the premise that it will be added later. The last title I can
remember that actually added something was ICR1 getting the modem to modem
multiplayer working(even tho the sticker on the box said it worked right out
of the box)..about 5 or 6 months after it was released. Other
companies...like the Age of Empire series...have promised free
patches...then instead....released an addon disk.. When GP3 came out, it
seemed unfinised, I advised folks to wait for the updates. When F12k came
out...serious issues...I advised folks to wait again...now F1RC is in a
holding pattern. Who knows when the issues will get resolved.
But I would NEVER buy something based on the PROMISE that they will fix
it. If there are issues that prevent you from enjoying the title either
wait for the patch or learn to live with the problems.
I bought N4 early, hoping to get a headstart on other users...but the
initial AI problems AND my fast cpu motherboard crashing...have kept me from
playing N4. I should have taken my own advice :) It's not easy waiting
when everyone is raving about this cool feature or that jazzy item.
As time goes by, the chance of a patch being released becomes less and
less and the reality will be, if you want the fixes, you'll have to buy the
update disk...(F1RCcs2001 anyone?)
dave henrie

> Unfortunately for me, I am not as good at detecting bullshit as you. I
> bought it based on the promise of the patch...kept waiting...and of course
> now it is too late to return it.

> Marc.

> > >> Nascar Heat had AI problems...it took them almost 6 months to get
the
> > >> first beta out the door and they still are working on it. Remember,
> > >nobody
> > >> twisted your arm to buy a half finished product in the first place.
> > >> dave henrie

> > No, but Ubisoft did lie to us and say there would be a patch released
> > in April. I'm sure many people bought the sim based on that promise. I
> > didn't because I figured they were bullshitting right from the start.
> > Damn frenchies.

by **Thom j** » Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:55:32

It is out yet Dave H??

| (F1RCcs2001 anyone?)
| dave henrie

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by **Simon Brow** » Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:21:04

You need to download BS Filter v3.2. There's a trial version at
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