rec.autos.simulators

I have been racing GPL on-line through VROC for some months now
and I feel I must comment on some areas that irritate me.

First off - Before a novice driver  even attempts an on-line race I
would suggest that they at least learn the track and some car control.
It is very disconcerting to come up on one  of these backmarkers
as they are so unpredictable, more often than not they tend to take
you off with them at the next corner they come to.

Second - I personally feel that backmarkers should stay on the racing
line when being lapped. I really don't mind one way or the other
however when they do go off line more often than not they are carrying
too much speed into the corner and tend to spin right in front of you.

This may sound a bit harsh to the newbie but I have been a backmarker
for long enough (and still am on occasions) to know that when the
leaders approach to lap the worst thing you  can do is panic. The
easiest way to let a front runner pass, for both of you, is drive at
your normal pace in the corners taking your usual line and allow him
to pass on the next straight slowing down slightly if you have to.
There's no need for you to go off line as the lapper should be
skillful enough to get past and make the next corner anyhow.

This is only my opinion and by no means applies to all slower drivers.
Maybe I've just had a bad batch of races recently.

    Again,  What the heck are you doing trying to pass someone while still
in a dangerous situation?

    Now you're making sense:-)  So long as the slower driver pretends that
there is no one behind them, they will be ok.  The only time they should
think about anyone else (behind them) is when the pass is actually
occurring.  Then, and only then, should the slower driver vary his line
(in a corner) and/or speed (in the strait) to help the situation.

    I get POed every now and then with the "slower" drivers.  But, as of
late, I've learned when and when not to pass a slower driver.  Most of the
time the second fastest driver will pass us both and take the slow car and
him self out, Leaving me with not only a clear track but also with no one
to worry about passing ;-)

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Mystic Music

Only if you are being lapped....  and/or offspeed.  If its for position, no
way you should just give the position up, but it is important for both
racers to maintain your line that you have chosen.

Um...WHAT?  Give me a break.  Just because someone is slow is no reason to
get POed at them for ANY reason.  Now, if they are slow, have no control,
don't know what they are doing its still not a real reason to be
pissed....why not offer them some advice, set up or driving tips, etc?  Now,
if they are being jerks and deliberately taking people out, causing mayhem,
etc then its rightfully justified to be POed.

So please, if the race says "F3 Only", don't come in in F1s (or F2s)
and take the place of someone that WANTS to race F3s.

<End rant>

G. Patricks

regards,

Tony

    We are talking about two different "slower drivers".  The slower drivers I'm
talking about are the ones trying to save there position.  Not the ones that
have problems driving.  The ones with problems driving, I'll slow down and
follow till I find the right place to pass.  With luck I will make the right
choice.  Again, It's the drivers that I know *know* what to do but try to
protect that position at any cost.

Have Fun,
Mike Barlow

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Mystic Music

There's only one thing that I find very irritating:  Drivers who race
you on their pit out laps during a practice.

When you're on a pit out lap, please try to let by the drivers who
aren't.  How do you know the driver behind you is on his pit out lap
or not?  Simple.  You don't.  Remember you have nothing to lose on
that lap, so if someone shows up behind you on your pit out lap with
more speed than you have, don't accelerate.  Let him by easy.  You'll
lose nothing, and you'll get a good reputation of being a nice guy to
race with.

Another thing is maybe you CAN stay in front, maybe you ARE faster
even on cold tires.  But remember that you may be masking braking
points for the driver who's following you, or cause some nervousness
(?) on his behalf.  Result of either case:  You***that driver's
lap.

Remember also that screwing up other people's laps could eventually
lead to screwing up the starting grid, i.e. faster drivers that didn't
get a clean lap will start behind slower drivers.  The result of this
is often that big tunr 1 pile-up.  You don't want that.

So please everyone, be very courteous on your pit out lap, especially
if I'm in the driver list for the event!

Frank

Francois Dubuc,

Simulator ***world,
http://www.racesimcentral.net/***world/

   This is 100% correct. Sometimes drivers can do you a tremendous
disservice by trying to do you a favor. Many times I have set up a pass
coming off a previous corner to overtake under braking into the next
only to see that an over polite driver is right there. With the car
fully loaded on it's suspension and braking left 'til the last moment a
disastrous outcome is certain. If a driver about to be lapped really
wants to be polite then he should be sure to do it by staying to the
outside of a corner. Where one corner leads to another of the opposite
direction he should just go through there as fast as he can.

His pole time BTW was 1:28. HAHAHAHA. I think that I am going to get a
blacklist page on my web site and publish replays of all the idiots I
encounter  who mehave like ***s online.

Mark

Then we can BOOT out (and blacklist IPs?) the offenders.

G. Patricks

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Keep in mind you could put ANY name in GPL....

Remco

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remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

IP addresses can change every dial-up.  It would be had to ban a specific IP
address...

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G. Patricks

Jens

On Sun, 9 May 1999 15:23:51 +0100, "Mark Seery"