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New ISI F1 sim?

Jason Moy

New ISI F1 sim?

by Jason Moy » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:47:41

I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using
their 99/00/01/02 licenses.  Anyone know if this is a new ISI product
with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details?

Jason

Doug Elliso

New ISI F1 sim?

by Doug Elliso » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:01:47


LMFAO !!!!!

They've 'evolved' their engine since F1 2000 to 2000 CS, to 2001, to 2002,
to their Nascar line, and then on to this.

Netcode will still be arse, gfx a bit inefficient, controller setup still
troublesome for some, physics a little questionable in places, tracks
inaccurate.

Doug

Joe Saxo

New ISI F1 sim?

by Joe Saxo » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:26:50

Why are you "LMFAO"?
ISI did a NASCAR line? You don't even know what the hell you are talking
about. Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about? EA
used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one. Also, F12002's
physics may not be perfect, but it's the best F1 sim out there. People with
proper computers and controllers have no problem with the "gfx a bit
inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some"

Are you still Laughing your ass off?

Joe




> >possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details?

> LMFAO !!!!!

> They've 'evolved' their engine since F1 2000 to 2000 CS, to 2001, to 2002,
> to their Nascar line, and then on to this.

> Netcode will still be arse, gfx a bit inefficient, controller setup still
> troublesome for some, physics a little questionable in places, tracks
> inaccurate.

> Doug

Doug Elliso

New ISI F1 sim?

by Doug Elliso » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:46:40

Even more now.

Doug

Joe Saxo

New ISI F1 sim?

by Joe Saxo » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:49:47

figured that's all you'd come up with.
A guy asks a legit question and you try to make him look stupid. The only
one you made look stupid is yourself. Keep laughing.

Joe


Doug Elliso

New ISI F1 sim?

by Doug Elliso » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:07:49


I am

Hope you'll have the character to do the same when it's released.

Doug

Doug Elliso

New ISI F1 sim?

by Doug Elliso » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:33:38

Thought I'd entertain you with a slightly more verbose response....


Their engine did. They developed the engine incrementally - one increment
being a Nascar title.

OK - fair enough. Do you?

Yup

It's ISI's engine. ISI developed it. It's an increment of the same engine
that powered all it's F1 titles before, and this one to come. Developments
that will show within the new F1 title over the older F1 titles, will
probably have come about as a result of the increment involved in the Nascar
title.

How true

Sadly. Doesnt mean it's good. Technically you could consider GPL an F1 sim -
and in terms of graphics ( with all the modern updates ), controllers, net
code, physics - tips any ISI/EA title into a hat.

OOO - ***y arnt we?
Athlon 2200, Asus A7N8X, 2x Corsair DDR3200 512mb Ram, Hercules Game Theater
XP.   I'd suggest thats fairly 'proper'.

http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Probably the worlds best publicly availabel FF wheel, and imho, the best
pedals available.  Yup - fairly 'proper'

Indeed they do.  Infact, I have very good controller and GFX performance
within F12k2. However - a huge percentage have problems with controllers.
The controller system within ISI's titles is totally pathetic. Compare to a
Papyrus title. I'm NOT a papy fan boy - BUT, their controller system is
simple, efficient, effective, works first time every time.  Ash McConnell's
just about the only other chap to have come close - and perhaps NetKar as
well - but ISI are doing as well with their controller setup code as they
are with their Netcode. It's basically - funny.

To suggest otherwise is chronic ignornace, stupidity, or lying. Take your
pick.

Not as much -it's not quite as fun having to explain exactly where you're so
missguided - but - yeah - I think I'm still laughing quite a bit

Doug

Haqsa

New ISI F1 sim?

by Haqsa » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:57:30

Nope, it appears to be console only.  The Xbox sites have a post similar to
the one on BHMotorsports, but BHMotorsports left out this important line:

F1 Career Challenge* - the first major innovation in FORMULA ONE games for
many years, will ship in April for the PlayStation?2 computer entertainment
system, the Xbox video game system by Microsoft and the Nintendo GameCube.


Joe Saxo

New ISI F1 sim?

by Joe Saxo » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:59:44

Whatever, all that ***you wrote is still no excuse to be a***......

Joe


> Thought I'd entertain you with a slightly more verbose response....



> > Why are you "LMFAO"?
> > ISI did a NASCAR line?
> Their engine did. They developed the engine incrementally - one increment
> being a Nascar title.

> >You don't even know what the hell you are talking
> > about.
> OK - fair enough. Do you?

> >Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about?
> Yup

> >EA
> > used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one.
> It's ISI's engine. ISI developed it. It's an increment of the same engine
> that powered all it's F1 titles before, and this one to come. Developments
> that will show within the new F1 title over the older F1 titles, will
> probably have come about as a result of the increment involved in the
Nascar
> title.

> > Also, F12002's
> > physics may not be perfect,
> How true

> > but it's the best F1 sim out there.
> Sadly. Doesnt mean it's good. Technically you could consider GPL an F1
sim -
> and in terms of graphics ( with all the modern updates ), controllers, net
> code, physics - tips any ISI/EA title into a hat.

> >People with
> > proper computers

> OOO - ***y arnt we?
> Athlon 2200, Asus A7N8X, 2x Corsair DDR3200 512mb Ram, Hercules Game
Theater
> XP.   I'd suggest thats fairly 'proper'.

> >and controllers
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Probably the worlds best publicly availabel FF wheel, and imho, the best
> pedals available.  Yup - fairly 'proper'

> >have no problem with the "gfx a bit
> > inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some"

> Indeed they do.  Infact, I have very good controller and GFX performance
> within F12k2. However - a huge percentage have problems with controllers.
> The controller system within ISI's titles is totally pathetic. Compare to
a
> Papyrus title. I'm NOT a papy fan boy - BUT, their controller system is
> simple, efficient, effective, works first time every time.  Ash
McConnell's
> just about the only other chap to have come close - and perhaps NetKar as
> well - but ISI are doing as well with their controller setup code as they
> are with their Netcode. It's basically - funny.

> To suggest otherwise is chronic ignornace, stupidity, or lying. Take your
> pick.

> > Are you still Laughing your ass off?
> Not as much -it's not quite as fun having to explain exactly where you're
so
> missguided - but - yeah - I think I'm still laughing quite a bit

> Doug

Haqsa

New ISI F1 sim?

by Haqsa » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:00:35

A few more details here: http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=4125 and here:
http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=4124.  Seems pretty clear it is console
only, based on their previous console F1 title.


> Nope, it appears to be console only.  The Xbox sites have a post similar
to
> the one on BHMotorsports, but BHMotorsports left out this important line:

> F1 Career Challenge* - the first major innovation in FORMULA ONE games for
> many years, will ship in April for the PlayStation?2 computer
entertainment
> system, the Xbox video game system by Microsoft and the Nintendo GameCube.



> > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using
> > their 99/00/01/02 licenses.  Anyone know if this is a new ISI product
> > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details?

> > Jason

Doug Elliso

New ISI F1 sim?

by Doug Elliso » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:06:58


Oh dearey me.

Confusing facts for 'crap'

Confusing suggesting that ISI's next F1 title will be nothing spectacularly
different to what has gone before with "being a***"

And confusing me for someone who really cares WHAT you think.

Doug

Joe Saxo

New ISI F1 sim?

by Joe Saxo » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:13:25

Well the las t line of the BHMS article reads as follows "F1 Career
Challenge for PC is scheduled to ship in April 2003."
So, unless they are wrong, it looks to be a PC title as well. Kind of a
crafty way to make a new game and not have
to pay a licensing fee. I guess some people think ISI/F12xxx series sucks,
but I think it's great! It's physics are
OK by me. It's not 1967 in those games.

Joe


> Nope, it appears to be console only.  The Xbox sites have a post similar
to
> the one on BHMotorsports, but BHMotorsports left out this important line:

> F1 Career Challenge* - the first major innovation in FORMULA ONE games for
> many years, will ship in April for the PlayStation?2 computer
entertainment
> system, the Xbox video game system by Microsoft and the Nintendo GameCube.



> > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using
> > their 99/00/01/02 licenses.  Anyone know if this is a new ISI product
> > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details?

> > Jason

Joe Saxo

New ISI F1 sim?

by Joe Saxo » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:25:15

OK, then it's been a pleasure, bye bye.....

J




> > Whatever, all that ***you wrote is still no excuse to be a***......

> Oh dearey me.

> Confusing facts for 'crap'

> Confusing suggesting that ISI's next F1 title will be nothing
spectacularly
> different to what has gone before with "being a***"

> And confusing me for someone who really cares WHAT you think.

> Doug

Doug Elliso

New ISI F1 sim?

by Doug Elliso » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:34:32


God DAMN I love a good flame war

Doug

Jason Moy

New ISI F1 sim?

by Jason Moy » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:49:19

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:13:25 -0500, "Joe Saxon"


> It's not 1967 in those games.

Pity, too.  Nothing like driving F1 cars when they were still cars and
not carbon fiber computer-assisted tubs with wings.

Jason


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