> > It's not 1967 in those games.
> Pity, too. Nothing like driving F1 cars when they were still cars and
> not carbon fiber computer-assisted tubs with wings.
:D
Doug
> > Why are you "LMFAO"?
> > ISI did a NASCAR line?
> Their engine did. They developed the engine incrementally - one increment
> being a Nascar title.
> >You don't even know what the hell you are talking
> > about.
> OK - fair enough. Do you?
> >Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about?
> Yup
> >EA
> > used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one.
> It's ISI's engine. ISI developed it. It's an increment of the same engine
> that powered all it's F1 titles before, and this one to come. Developments
> that will show within the new F1 title over the older F1 titles, will
> probably have come about as a result of the increment involved in the Nascar
> title.
> > Also, F12002's
> > physics may not be perfect,
> How true
> > but it's the best F1 sim out there.
> Sadly. Doesnt mean it's good. Technically you could consider GPL an F1 sim -
> and in terms of graphics ( with all the modern updates ), controllers, net
> code, physics - tips any ISI/EA title into a hat.
> >People with
> > proper computers
> OOO - ***y arnt we?
> Athlon 2200, Asus A7N8X, 2x Corsair DDR3200 512mb Ram, Hercules Game Theater
> XP. I'd suggest thats fairly 'proper'.
> >and controllers
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> Probably the worlds best publicly availabel FF wheel, and imho, the best
> pedals available. Yup - fairly 'proper'
> >have no problem with the "gfx a bit
> > inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some"
> Indeed they do. Infact, I have very good controller and GFX performance
> within F12k2. However - a huge percentage have problems with controllers.
> The controller system within ISI's titles is totally pathetic. Compare to a
> Papyrus title. I'm NOT a papy fan boy - BUT, their controller system is
> simple, efficient, effective, works first time every time. Ash McConnell's
> just about the only other chap to have come close - and perhaps NetKar as
> well - but ISI are doing as well with their controller setup code as they
> are with their Netcode. It's basically - funny.
> To suggest otherwise is chronic ignornace, stupidity, or lying. Take your
> pick.
> > Are you still Laughing your ass off?
> Not as much -it's not quite as fun having to explain exactly where you're so
> missguided - but - yeah - I think I'm still laughing quite a bit
> Doug
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Sweet looking but pricey. Seem the be considered the best pedal set on the
market.
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Joe M.
> > Thought I'd entertain you with a slightly more verbose response....
> > > Why are you "LMFAO"?
> > > ISI did a NASCAR line?
> > Their engine did. They developed the engine incrementally - one
increment
> > being a Nascar title.
> > >You don't even know what the hell you are talking
> > > about.
> > OK - fair enough. Do you?
> > >Did you bother to go read the article the guy was posting about?
> > Yup
> > >EA
> > > used the ISI engine for a NASCAR game, but ISI didn't do one.
> > It's ISI's engine. ISI developed it. It's an increment of the same
engine
> > that powered all it's F1 titles before, and this one to come.
Developments
> > that will show within the new F1 title over the older F1 titles, will
> > probably have come about as a result of the increment involved in the
Nascar
> > title.
> > > Also, F12002's
> > > physics may not be perfect,
> > How true
> > > but it's the best F1 sim out there.
> > Sadly. Doesnt mean it's good. Technically you could consider GPL an F1
sim -
> > and in terms of graphics ( with all the modern updates ), controllers,
net
> > code, physics - tips any ISI/EA title into a hat.
> > >People with
> > > proper computers
> > OOO - ***y arnt we?
> > Athlon 2200, Asus A7N8X, 2x Corsair DDR3200 512mb Ram, Hercules Game
Theater
> > XP. I'd suggest thats fairly 'proper'.
> > >and controllers
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > Probably the worlds best publicly availabel FF wheel, and imho, the best
> > pedals available. Yup - fairly 'proper'
> > >have no problem with the "gfx a bit
> > > inefficient, controller setup still troublesome for some"
> > Indeed they do. Infact, I have very good controller and GFX performance
> > within F12k2. However - a huge percentage have problems with
controllers.
> > The controller system within ISI's titles is totally pathetic. Compare
to a
> > Papyrus title. I'm NOT a papy fan boy - BUT, their controller system is
> > simple, efficient, effective, works first time every time. Ash
McConnell's
> > just about the only other chap to have come close - and perhaps NetKar
as
> > well - but ISI are doing as well with their controller setup code as
they
> > are with their Netcode. It's basically - funny.
> > To suggest otherwise is chronic ignornace, stupidity, or lying. Take
your
> > pick.
> > > Are you still Laughing your ass off?
> > Not as much -it's not quite as fun having to explain exactly where
you're so
> > missguided - but - yeah - I think I'm still laughing quite a bit
> > Doug
> Jason
>>On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:13:25 -0500, "Joe Saxon"
>>>It's not 1967 in those games.
>>Pity, too. Nothing like driving F1 cars when they were still cars and
>>not carbon fiber computer-assisted tubs with wings.
> They had better netcode in 1967 as well
: > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using
: > their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISI product
: > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details?
: >
: > Jason
:
'an auto show'
Anyone who refers to the G.f.o.S as "an auto show" really doesnt know what
they're talking about.
Why the anon. postin "internet user"
If you have something to say - why do you need to hide?
Doug
I'll wait and see the product to decide if it's bad or good but for ALL the
existing EA F1 games the controller dead zone has been a SERIOUS problem,
F12001 was UNPLAYABLE with my ACTLABS Force RS because of this, it's better
in F12002 but still WAY behing GPL for example....
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> Joe
> > > Are you still Laughing your ass off?
> > Even more now.
> > Doug
> Anyone who refers to the G.f.o.S as "an auto show" really doesnt know what
> they're talking about.
> Why the anon. postin "internet user"
> If you have something to say - why do you need to hide?
> Doug
I don't have anything to hide at all. This is my monikor "Internet
User". Been posting for over a year with the same name. Why is
"Internet User" anymore anonymous than "Doug Ellison"? Was Mark Twain
anonymous because didn't write under his own name?
: > : > I saw on bhmotorsports.com that EA is releasing a new F1 sim using
: > : > their 99/00/01/02 licenses. Anyone know if this is a new ISI
product
: > : > with possibly (hopefully) a new engine or any other details?
: > : >
: > : > Jason
: > :
: > 'an auto show'
: >
: > Anyone who refers to the G.f.o.S as "an auto show" really doesnt know
what
: > they're talking about.
: >
: > Why the anon. postin "internet user"
: >
: > If you have something to say - why do you need to hide?
: >
: > Doug
:
: Let's see.... classic cars,
And modern.
: driven around a classic track,
A hill climb, not a classic track.
:by classic drivers
Drivers of all ages actually. Jenson Button to John Surtees.
:in uncompetitive races
Some chose to be competative - some chose to race against the clock. Alan
McNish particularly 'cained' it up the hill in the '02 Toyota F1 Chassis.
Most impressive.
:This describes both Goodwood....
REVIVAL. not the Festival of Speed. So - I was right, you really DONT know
what you're talking about.
:It's an auto show.
Whatever. I suppose Le Mans is just a camping holiday and Monaco just a
booze cruise then ??
You dont know anything about the Festival of Speed, and you dont know
anything about RL ( as you've confused it in two seperate posts as the same
project as WSC - which it is not.).
Doug
Joe
> I'll wait and see the product to decide if it's bad or good but for ALL
the
> existing EA F1 games the controller dead zone has been a SERIOUS problem,
> F12001 was UNPLAYABLE with my ACTLABS Force RS because of this, it's
better
> in F12002 but still WAY behing GPL for example....
> --
> The first ever pinball ezboard !!
> http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball
> SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE -
RYL
> FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS
> BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N
> SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON
> WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY
> > figured that's all you'd come up with.
> > A guy asks a legit question and you try to make him look stupid. The
only
> > one you made look stupid is yourself. Keep laughing.
> > Joe
> > > > Are you still Laughing your ass off?
> > > Even more now.
> > > Doug
> > Anyone who refers to the G.f.o.S as "an auto show" really doesnt know
what
> > they're talking about.
> > Why the anon. postin "internet user"
> > If you have something to say - why do you need to hide?
> > Doug
> Let's see.... classic cars, driven around a classic track, by classic
> drivers in uncompetitive races. This describes both Goodwood and the
> Monterey Historics. It's an auto show.
> I don't have anything to hide at all. This is my monikor "Internet
> User". Been posting for over a year with the same name. Why is
> "Internet User" anymore anonymous than "Doug Ellison"? Was Mark Twain
> anonymous because didn't write under his own name?
It's ironic that he mocks ISI for creating an ever improving simulation
(admittedly with some nagging issues) yet defends the vaporware brothers of
Urban Racing Legends.
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Joe M. (last name concealed to create a diversion)
: It's ironic that he mocks ISI for creating an ever improving simulation
: (admittedly with some nagging issues) yet defends the vaporware brothers
of
: Urban Racing Legends.
I mock the nagging issues - not the F1 series. IN terms of modern F1 - F12k2
is as good as it gets. In many areas it's very sound - but in terms of
Netcode and Controller setup - they're being thrashed to a pulp by a 4 year
old title. Rather tragic isnt it?
As for defending West Bros - load of old toss - RL will defend itself
perfectly well on release. I will, however - put people straight were
they're spreading miss information, lies etc.
Doug
Cheers,
uwe
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Cheers (no, that doesn't sound Euro fag, now does it?)
Joe
> > And confusing me for someone who really cares WHAT you think.
> and he top-posts / full quotes like someone stuck with LookOut
> and no mouse! Eeek ;-)
> Cheers,
> uwe
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