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by **Dann** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins are
not canned ok then.
I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you floor
the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You
cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in
first gear.
ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF

The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out.

And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge.

I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real life
F1 cars.
Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel to
control the car and keep it straight.

Have fun trying cause you wont do it.
As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car with the
wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still throws
you off when it decides it wants too.
I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed festival
Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd
gear
all aids off of course.
The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in the
grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL

Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2.
crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards.
He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all.
Thats why the game looks similar in software mode.

Pathetic.

by R4 » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Hey, Floor the throttle from standing in 1st gear in an F1 car and see how
long you last facing in one direction.

And don't go shouting that it doesn't happen in GPL cos they're different
cars (higher, softer, 1/2 the power etc).

by **Dann** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Not just flooring it any throttle.
If u cared to notice you cant FEATHER the throttle in gp3
As soon as it spins it first gear even at half throttle the revs flare up
and u spin out
U try spinning through first gear at any throttle.
considering real f1 cars spin 1st 2nd 3rd and can keep it straight it should
be easy huh?
The gp3 cars are such dogs they dont even spin in 2nd gear in a straight
line,in real life they are always batteling to put the power down,im flat
out of all corners once i get about 40kph.
Sad

by **Sjon Stigte** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

are you done trolling GP3 now?

by **Dann** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Are you done defending it?

by **Sjon Stigte** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Are you going to learn how to reply properly to a post?

> Are you done defending it?

> > All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins
are
> > not canned ok then.
> > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you
floor
> > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You
> > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in
> > first gear.
> > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF

> > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out.

> > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge.

> > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real
> life
> > F1 cars.
> > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel
to
> > control the car and keep it straight.

> > Have fun trying cause you wont do it.
> > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car with
> the
> > wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still
throws
> > you off when it decides it wants too.
> > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed
festival
> > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd
> > gear
> > all aids off of course.
> > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in
> the
> > grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL

> > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2.
> > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards.
> > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all.
> > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode.

> > Pathetic.

by **wsa** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

hehehe...you guys are very funny...
I agree with sjon that the original post is sorta ermmm....very one
sided.
But...danny dude does have a point.
I've been driving for days now (ALL aids off including steeringhelp,
for those who really believe everyone who has a negative thing to say
about how it drives is actually a moron with all driving aids on..gg)
And he is right...it is more forgiving in the rain and i finally have
been able to do something which could be considered a controled back
slide out of a corner in the wet...
I think it's normal for the wet cause there's less traction and less
friction between the road and tires..so everything is smoother and
happens for gently.
But pulling away like a mad man in the dry or wet , or a burnout,
things shown at shows like what he saw J.button do, and at the start
of a race is indeed impossible..
You loose the car...period...
I can drive away full trottle after letting the clutch go and keep it
straight for not more the a few meters...and that's with easing off
the throttle...
I would not dare to call it canned.
But... my idea is that it's certaily *far* from dymanic and force
based as in GPL...
And for the lamers who go " there's one of them GPL people again"...
is there something wrong with wanting/hoping for an F1 sim which
achieves the same thing as GPL as far as it concerns physics...don't
think there is.

cheers,
willem

by **Douglas Elliso** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

You've never seen Jensen Button do a "300 meter burn out at the goodwill
speed festival"
What you saw was Jensen Button do a 100 burn out at the Goodwood Festival of
Speed. I was there.

Doug

by **Jo Hels** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:18:46 +0100, "Douglas Ellison"

>You've never seen Jensen Button do a "300 meter burn out at the goodwill
>speed festival"
>What you saw was Jensen Button do a 100 burn out at the Goodwood Festival of
>Speed. I was there.

>Doug

Q: what implications does this have for the original poster's
credibility

A: .............

JoH

by **Dann** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

lol,i read it was hundreds or meters
did you have a tape measure there did u?
Im sure he could of gone on for 500 meters
point is a real F1 car do massvie burnouts and wheel spin in almost all the
gears
I gp3 i cant get it to spin in second

> are you done trolling GP3 now?

> > All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins
are
> > not canned ok then.
> > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you
floor
> > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You
> > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in
> > first gear.
> > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF

> > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out.

> > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge.

> > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real
> life
> > F1 cars.
> > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel
to
> > control the car and keep it straight.

> > Have fun trying cause you wont do it.
> > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car with
> the
> > wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still
throws
> > you off when it decides it wants too.
> > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed
festival
> > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd
> > gear
> > all aids off of course.
> > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in
> the
> > grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL

> > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2.
> > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards.
> > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all.
> > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode.

> > Pathetic.

by **Dann** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

lol,i read it was hundreds or meters
did you have a tape measure there did u?
Im sure he could of gone on for 500 meters
point is a real F1 car do massvie burnouts and wheel spin in almost all the
gears
I gp3 i cant get it to spin in second

> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:18:46 +0100, "Douglas Ellison"

> >You've never seen Jensen Button do a "300 meter burn out at the goodwill
> >speed festival"
> >What you saw was Jensen Button do a 100 burn out at the Goodwood Festival
of
> >Speed. I was there.

> >Doug

> Q: what implications does this have for the original poster's
> credibility

> A: .............

> JoH

by **Jo Hels** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Others seem to be able to. Maybe you are just not good enough?

JoH

by **Dann** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Yeah you are right dude,i dont know how to floor the throttle and make the
car spin,they can all floor the throttle beter than me cant they.
You stupid idiot,have u even played the game?
Go back to need for speed ***wit

> >lol,i read it was hundreds or meters
> >did you have a tape measure there did u?
> >Im sure he could of gone on for 500 meters
> >point is a real F1 car do massvie burnouts and wheel spin in almost all
the
> >gears
> >I gp3 i cant get it to spin in second

> Others seem to be able to. Maybe you are just not good enough?

> JoH

by **Jo Hels** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Hmmm.... No wonder the English dropped you on that island far, far
away.

JoH

by **ExMrBlond** » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

And this coming from a BELGIAN ???

HA ***IN' HA.

Just remember whose gravestones you have out there.

That's right, the people who saved your nations ass !!!

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