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a game with a realistic simulation.

Mauri

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Mauri » Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:44:55

Hi to the group (for the first time: i'm new :-D)
    Could you help me to find a game, not very new (I have a P166MMX and a
Voodoo I ) but with a very realistic simulation? I mean... i don't search a
game with a great graphic or easy to play... i'm searching a game with a
curate reproducion of real physic movement of the car.
    I have the F1 racing simulation that is very good (i drive without any
help, without ABS and traction control... with wheel and pedals) but i'dd
like to find a game for more normals cars...

Thanks every one....
bye... maurix

Rob.

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Rob. » Mon, 18 Dec 2000 21:02:57

You should try to find a copy of Grand Prix Legends from Papyrus.
Try here: http://www.sierra-online.co.uk/main.html
under the Originals.
It is the best simulation at the moment.

Rob.



Tony Whitle

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Tony Whitle » Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:23:11

It won't really run on a P166/Voodoo1 though will it... How about Papyrus
Nascar 2? Microprose GP2 perhaps?

--
Tony Whitley
GPLRank +12.8


> You should try to find a copy of Grand Prix Legends from Papyrus.
> Try here: http://www.sierra-online.co.uk/main.html
> under the Originals.
> It is the best simulation at the moment.

> Rob.



> > Hi to the group (for the first time: i'm new :-D)
> >     Could you help me to find a game, not very new (I have a P166MMX and
a
> > Voodoo I ) but with a very realistic simulation? I mean... i don't
search
> a
> > game with a great graphic or easy to play... i'm searching a game with a
> > curate reproducion of real physic movement of the car.
> >     I have the F1 racing simulation that is very good (i drive without
any
> > help, without ABS and traction control... with wheel and pedals) but
i'dd
> > like to find a game for more normals cars...

> > Thanks every one....
> > bye... maurix

Jan Verschuere

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:48:14

No, don't! -Honestly: don't. Not on a P166MMX with Voodoo1 card. The game
will run too poorly for you to enjoy it.

That said, by all means, buy it while you still can. It will be there (and
still hold it's own) once you get more horsepower inside the case.

Jan.
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Mauri

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Mauri » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 01:37:00

Well... really i have a Voodoo II... (i forgot an I :-|
I'm downloading a demo of GPL, to see if it work well or not.
Yes, i'm thinking about a new powerful system.... but my parents don't have
the same idea.... :(
Thanks a lot...
Maurix

Destro

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Destro » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 02:04:18

You may want to try Viper Racing demo. That has pretty good physics. Not sure
how the frame rate would be but its not very gfx intensive.

> Hi to the group (for the first time: i'm new :-D)
>     Could you help me to find a game, not very new (I have a P166MMX and a
> Voodoo I ) but with a very realistic simulation? I mean... i don't search a
> game with a great graphic or easy to play... i'm searching a game with a
> curate reproducion of real physic movement of the car.
>     I have the F1 racing simulation that is very good (i drive without any
> help, without ABS and traction control... with wheel and pedals) but i'dd
> like to find a game for more normals cars...

> Thanks every one....
> bye... maurix

David Butte

a game with a realistic simulation.

by David Butte » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 03:12:18

Maurix wrote on 17 Dec 2000:

Welcome along, Maurix! :-)

<snip>

You say lower down that you actually have a V2, which helps a fair bit.

Anyhow - the best racing game around is Grand Prix Legends. Your PC will
struggle in races (though hotlapping on your own should be OK), but go out
and buy it now anyway - it's very cheap, and will repay your investment
handsomely when you have the system for it.

As for games that will run on your current system - Grand Prix 2, although
old, is still a good game, and should run very smoothly on a P166.

If you prefer NASCAR, NASCAR 2 should do. Or Indycar Racing 2 for CART.
Maybe CART Precision Racing. I don't know much about US racing, though.

Rallying is a little trickier. I happen to like Network Q RAC Rally
Championship by Europress (what a name!), but it's probably extremely
difficult to find outside Europe by now, as it's 3-4 years old.

Finally, touring cars. There isn't a really realistic sim here - TOCA is
the best you'll do, but it's pretty arcadey.

By all means download the demo of GPL - it's worth it. But do remember that
two years have passed since it came out, and there are a *lot* of patches,
addons etc that have been released since (almost all unofficial - the GPL
community is very active), which will make it even better.

When you have a faster PC, get Grand Prix 3 for its excellent weather
simulation, NASCAR 4 for US racing...

Do read others' opinions in this group, as we all disagree a lot... :-)

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92)
The GPL Scrapyard - http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" -
Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Ville V Sinkk

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Ville V Sinkk » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 03:47:32


> Well... really i have a Voodoo II... (i forgot an I :-|
> I'm downloading a demo of GPL, to see if it work well or not.
> Yes, i'm thinking about a new powerful system.... but my parents don't have
> the same idea.... :(

I'm running GPL on a 180mhz Pentium Pro with no 3D card, and have a GPL
handicap of 59.96. You probably don't know (yet) what that is, but in
layman's terms it means that with that kind of a computer you can have
a good time in GPL and get nice laptimes... but also forget about
racing. :( I'm getting a 6.5-9fps in training mode with almost every detail
and all graphic effects turned off. Some tracks, notably the "uphill
half" of the Rouen track, are on the verge of being undriveable.

In short, get a CPU upgrade anyway, unless you're into S&M or are totally
broke. (of which I'm the latter, FWIW)

PS. And to top off the blues with a nice maraschino cherry, my joystick
just broke after three years of trusty use just after I'd shaved 3 tenths
off my Mosport PB. I guess it's nature's way of telling me it's about
time for a christmas brake.. umm, break.

+Cinquo

Rob.

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Rob. » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 04:07:19

I did have a p 166 with a voodoo1, and it did run good in training and with
5 AI and reduced graphics I could get 20-23fps

Atleast buy GPL if you can get it anywhere.And save it until you upgrade
your comp.

Rob.



jhl

a game with a realistic simulation.

by jhl » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 04:52:45

Well, I'm still running GPL on my P200mmx with a Voodoo1 and when I'm driving on
my own, it's not too bad actually,
but racing is horrible and more than 5 cars is impossible :-(
I'll upgrade soon though :-)
JH

> It won't really run on a P166/Voodoo1 though will it... How about Papyrus
> Nascar 2? Microprose GP2 perhaps?

> --
> Tony Whitley
> GPLRank +12.8


> > You should try to find a copy of Grand Prix Legends from Papyrus.
> > Try here: http://www.sierra-online.co.uk/main.html
> > under the Originals.
> > It is the best simulation at the moment.

> > Rob.



> > > Hi to the group (for the first time: i'm new :-D)
> > >     Could you help me to find a game, not very new (I have a P166MMX and
> a
> > > Voodoo I ) but with a very realistic simulation? I mean... i don't
> search
> > a
> > > game with a great graphic or easy to play... i'm searching a game with a
> > > curate reproducion of real physic movement of the car.
> > >     I have the F1 racing simulation that is very good (i drive without
> any
> > > help, without ABS and traction control... with wheel and pedals) but
> i'dd
> > > like to find a game for more normals cars...

> > > Thanks every one....
> > > bye... maurix

Tim

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Tim » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 06:12:02

Viper Racing. It'll run good at 640x480 on your machine. One of the
machines on my LAN is a P133 with a Voodoo 1, and it's fine for
multi-player Viper.

You might want to check out SODA, which is an off-road buggy and truck
simulation. It doesn't support the Voodoo, but you should be able to
run it passably on your machine.

Tim



Eldre

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Eldre » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:28:02


writes:

>You should try to find a copy of Grand Prix Legends from Papyrus.
>Try here: http://www.sierra-online.co.uk/main.html
>under the Originals.
>It is the best simulation at the moment.

>Rob.



>> Hi to the group (for the first time: i'm new :-D)
>>     Could you help me to find a game, not very new (I have a P166MMX and a
>> Voodoo I ) but with a very realistic simulation? I mean... i don't search
>a
>> game with a great graphic or easy to play... i'm searching a game with a
>> curate reproducion of real physic movement of the car.
>>     I have the F1 racing simulation that is very good (i drive without any
>> help, without ABS and traction control... with wheel and pedals) but i'dd
>> like to find a game for more normals cars...

I disagree.  A P166, even with a V2, isn't a system that will run GPL
efficiently.  Trust me - that's the same setup I had when GPL came out.  Even
turning down all the detail, I only got about 7-9 fps.  Very disappointing...

Eldred
--
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Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPL F1 hcp. +39.11/F3 hcp. +373.73

Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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Andrew MacPhers

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Andrew MacPhers » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:00:00


> P166MMX and a
> Voodoo I

I had a 166mmx and a voodoo1 when the GPL demo came out. But I overclocked
the 166mmx to 225 easily (depends on your motherboard, but 166mmx's were
famous for going much faster). Without any AI drivers the demo was quite
driveable (about 25fps, which isn't idea but it was "ok"). However GPL
"forced" me to upgrade very quickly, and it wasn't long before I took the
Cel300a/450a+V2 upgrade path.

Andrew McP

Jeff Vince

a game with a realistic simulation.

by Jeff Vince » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:42:46




>> Well... really i have a Voodoo II... (i forgot an I :-|
>> I'm downloading a demo of GPL, to see if it work well or not.
>> Yes, i'm thinking about a new powerful system.... but my parents don't have
>> the same idea.... :(

>I'm running GPL on a 180mhz Pentium Pro with no 3D card, and have a GPL
>handicap of 59.96. You probably don't know (yet) what that is, but in
>layman's terms it means that with that kind of a computer you can have
>a good time in GPL and get nice laptimes... but also forget about
>racing. :( I'm getting a 6.5-9fps in training mode with almost every detail
>and all graphic effects turned off. Some tracks, notably the "uphill
>half" of the Rouen track, are on the verge of being undriveable.

   Actually, it isn't as bad as everyone make it sound, Maurix.  I
first drove GPL with a P133 and V1000 Rendition card (both below the
specs you've quoted) and it was decent in training mode (no
opponents).  Just enough to make you want more.  :)  Go for it.

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

timha..

a game with a realistic simulation.

by timha.. » Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:14:19

Just got CM2 and I'm enjoying that at the moment. Good mix of surfaces
and stages, hard to judge reg realism...currently having time out from
GPL but certainly recommend it

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