What was the name of that guy a few years ago that was caught
cheating online?
Michael Schumacher
> > What was the name of that guy a few years ago that was caught
> > cheating online?
> Michael Schumacher
Was it SAVATS? He was accused many times in GPL.
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> Well there was many, but Robert Huggins was the "famous" one.
> > > What was the name of that guy a few years ago that was caught
> > > cheating online?
> > Well there was many, but Robert Huggins was the "famous" one.
> Yup, that's the guy I was thinking of.
Beers and cheers
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> > > > What was the name of that guy a few years ago that was caught
> > > > cheating online?
> > > Well there was many, but Robert Huggins was the "famous" one.
> > Yup, that's the guy I was thinking of.
> LOL, was wondering when someone would bring up this one :-)
Old sim racers have really long memories - I'm so old, I needed help
with mine. I checked dejanews because I know it was discussed
frequently here. Then, someone on sierra's boards mentioned his
current ID's, and one of the ones listed is the one the applicant
provided. That was proof enough for me.
I figured he was the one when I found his name in a list alongside
Don Wilshe's.
> Old sim racers have really long memories - I'm so old, I needed help
> with mine. I checked dejanews because I know it was discussed
> frequently here. Then, someone on sierra's boards mentioned his
> current ID's, and one of the ones listed is the one the applicant
> provided. That was proof enough for me.
> I figured he was the one when I found his name in a list alongside
> Don Wilshe's.
> > resources.com says...
> > Old sim racers have really long memories - I'm so old, I needed help
> > with mine. I checked dejanews because I know it was discussed
> > frequently here. Then, someone on sierra's boards mentioned his
> > current ID's, and one of the ones listed is the one the applicant
> > provided. That was proof enough for me.
> > I figured he was the one when I found his name in a list alongside
> > Don Wilshe's.
> Didn't you let Don run a few RASCAR races a while back?
Again, the decision to refuse him entry was his past with another
league. While I don't think he'll ever admit it, he tried the same
***with us.
4th Turn is a huge cheat from what I hear
If you are talking about Robert Huggins, then I think you better go do some
deep research of the issues.....because he was "accused" of cheating under
circumstances that subsequent evidence never supported. At the time,
there's enough evidence that he was arbitrarily "kicked off TEN" by Papyrus
for not so noble reasons.....the excuse was that he was cheating. Nothing
was ever proven. I believe Robert's "response" was something along the
lines of "yes, I was cheating online.....but I was hired by Papyrus to do
that in order to prove to them the flaws in their online coding for NASCAR 3
(I believe it was N3....not totally sure about that)." He claims to have
had some "political problems" subsequently with several individuals at
Papyrus.......and that he was "framed" as a cheater for that reason. I'm
not sure of all of the details.....but my memory isn't too far off.....that
I am sure of.
I also can tell you that at the same time, I was having some problems with
some Papyrus staff as well......but for entirely different and unrelated
things. But, these few individuals I had problems with....if they were also
ones that were involved with Robert's deal.......these guys were not beyond
doing something like that. I will tell you that I did not sit back and take
this ***from these people idly......I took it to Havaas.....and within a
month all three of these individuals were mysteriously no longer working at
Papyrus! I'm not going to rehash old shit......but this occurred just after
the Huggins deal (by a few months).....so you can figure out the connection
yourself.
I would also like you to research how he has conducted himself since then,
and what he has contributed to this sim community's online racing software
since then. He's a member of Black Hole Motorsports still, (I
believe).....and there's enough well respected people on that race team that
did enough "search and research" to satisfy themselves enough to have Robert
Huggins join the team (a couple years ago I believe). That, I would
think....should carry some weight with you as well. But, you should do your
own homework, too.
Finally, I will state emphatically that I am not friends with Robert
Huggins, that I have no ulterior motive for making these statements about
him. I am only making them in the interest of fair play. I think you are
making a mistake, John. That's the only reason I have responded to this
post.
My regards,
Tom Pabst
Pabst-Racing.com
Have we learned nothing from the witch-hunt days? From the Joe McCarthy
days?
CAN WE PLEASE AVOID THE *******"I HEARD SO-IN-SO IS A CHEATER"
STATEMENTS*******?????????
Zodiac....I don't have a clue who you are. But your "stock" in my book just
went to "zero!" That was one of the most "brainless" statements I've ever
heard come out of the mouth of a human being!
I do not know who "4th Turn" is either....but you owe him (or her) an
apology....as well as every member of this board!
TP
This your annual attempt at re-writing sim history? Your stories are
getting craftier but there's still some left who know better.
Gavel
> If you are talking about Robert Huggins, then I think you better go do
some
> deep research of the issues.....because he was "accused" of cheating under
> circumstances that subsequent evidence never supported. At the time,
> there's enough evidence that he was arbitrarily "kicked off TEN" by
Papyrus
> for not so noble reasons.....the excuse was that he was cheating. Nothing
> was ever proven. I believe Robert's "response" was something along the
> lines of "yes, I was cheating online.....but I was hired by Papyrus to do
> that in order to prove to them the flaws in their online coding for NASCAR
3
> (I believe it was N3....not totally sure about that)." He claims to have
> had some "political problems" subsequently with several individuals at
> Papyrus.......and that he was "framed" as a cheater for that reason. I'm
> not sure of all of the details.....but my memory isn't too far
off.....that
> I am sure of.
> I also can tell you that at the same time, I was having some problems with
> some Papyrus staff as well......but for entirely different and unrelated
> things. But, these few individuals I had problems with....if they were
also
> ones that were involved with Robert's deal.......these guys were not
beyond
> doing something like that. I will tell you that I did not sit back and
take
> this ***from these people idly......I took it to Havaas.....and within a
> month all three of these individuals were mysteriously no longer working
at
> Papyrus! I'm not going to rehash old shit......but this occurred just
after
> the Huggins deal (by a few months).....so you can figure out the
connection
> yourself.
> I would also like you to research how he has conducted himself since then,
> and what he has contributed to this sim community's online racing software
> since then. He's a member of Black Hole Motorsports still, (I
> believe).....and there's enough well respected people on that race team
that
> did enough "search and research" to satisfy themselves enough to have
Robert
> Huggins join the team (a couple years ago I believe). That, I would
> think....should carry some weight with you as well. But, you should do
your
> own homework, too.
> Finally, I will state emphatically that I am not friends with Robert
> Huggins, that I have no ulterior motive for making these statements about
> him. I am only making them in the interest of fair play. I think you are
> making a mistake, John. That's the only reason I have responded to this
> post.
> My regards,
> Tom Pabst
> Pabst-Racing.com
> > What was the name of that guy a few years ago that was caught
> > cheating online?