rec.autos.simulators

Blast From The Past

Gave

Blast From The Past

by Gave » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:04:40

  Here ya go, like our last meeting where I present your own words and you
try to wriggle out of their meaning. You tell us to go and do some research
because..( the inference is that John somehow got it all wrong)....then you
explain how it was.  I explained how it wasn't.
1.You postulate that he was arbitrarily kicked off. We were told that he was
cheating.
2. You say he was accused of cheating under circumstances that subsequent
evidence never supported. What evidence? They said he was cheating.Period.
You never had any evidence so your statement means what?.
3. ..And please explain what evidence this was that proved he was
"arbitrarily" kicked off of TEN? Do you have this evidence? No, you couldn't
have!
4. So you go on to infer that Papy's "excuse" to dump him was cheating. If
it wasn't produce the evidence you reference.
   You can't. You don't have it. I never saw anything but what Papy said and
what I observed on Hawaii and the RAS at the time and that was that he was
cheating by admission and commission.
    Yep, I probably spent more time on the TEN ng than driving. I drove in
some leagues. I am an also ran. But I aint bad for a guy who hasn't driven a
race car in his life.
    I have been called a stirrer. I have subjects I'll speak out about. But
I don't post very much and I certainly don't pretend to have done what I
haven't.
    Huggins doesn't bother me. That was a long time ago.

  "If you are talking about Robert Huggins, then I think you better go do
some
deep research of the issues.....because he was "accused" of cheating under
circumstances that subsequent evidence never supported.  At the time,
there's enough evidence that he was arbitrarily "kicked off TEN" by Papyrus
for not so noble reasons.....the excuse was that he was cheating.  Nothing
was ever proven.  I believe Robert's "response" was something along the
lines of  "yes, I was cheating online.....but I was hired by Papyrus to do
that in order to prove to them the flaws in their online coding for NASCAR
3"

Pete

Blast From The Past

by Pete » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:50:57

    Thanks Eldred. I've actually tried to get ready for the last few races
but
with the pain killers i'm taking I don't want to***up and cause wrecks.
Its
easy enough to do under normal conditions.
    I have been doing some setups for the road courses and if anyone needs
something let me know.

    Pete




> I didn't know you were having health problems, man.  Hope you feel better
> soon...

> Eldred
> --
> Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on
my
> homepage)
> Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett

> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Steve Smit

Blast From The Past

by Steve Smit » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:20:35

Pete, I'm interested in yer roadie setups.  I'm thinking of writing a setup
guide (I know: oh noooooooo!!!!!!).


>     Thanks Eldred. I've actually tried to get ready for the last few races
> but
> with the pain killers i'm taking I don't want to***up and cause
wrecks.
> Its
> easy enough to do under normal conditions.
>     I have been doing some setups for the road courses and if anyone needs
> something let me know.

>     Pete





> > I didn't know you were having health problems, man.  Hope you feel
better
> > soon...

> > Eldred
> > --
> > Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on
> my
> > homepage)
> > Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett

> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Pete

Blast From The Past

by Pete » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:12:56

    John, I think you have made a good call. Robert will have a tough
time earning peoples respect and he will be under constant scrutiny.
    If he decides to reapply(and I hope he does) I don't think he would
be foolish enough to do anything untoward.

    Pete



>> Well, hell. I sat here reading all this stuff (and Pete's message was
> the kicker), and I gotta admit that my decision may have been made a
> bit harsh.

> If you tell Robert to indicate on the RASCAR forum (or here for that
> matter) that he still wants to race with us, I'll go ahead and
> approve his application.

> I hereby officially apologize to Robert for assuming the worst
> without actually experiencing it. I hope there's no hard feelings on
> his end, and that he understands where I was coming from on the
> initial refusal.

Jason Moy

Blast From The Past

by Jason Moy » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:38:01

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 02:20:35 GMT, "Steve Smith"


>Pete, I'm interested in yer roadie setups.  I'm thinking of writing a setup
>guide (I know: oh noooooooo!!!!!!).

Could you .pdf it so I can print it out to read on the commode?

Jason

Pete

Blast From The Past

by Pete » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:37:02

    LOL been there done that. Its actually hard work.

    Its a work in progress for me. Its been a long time
since I did road course setups. Some of them seem to
be working very well.
    I love the way car responds to the changes.

    Pete


Don Burnett

Blast From The Past

by Don Burnett » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:11:08

Pete,

I know you been fighting the health issues for a while. Best of luck and
hang in there.
I have been there before, and know what it can be like.

Don


>     Thanks Eldred. I've actually tried to get ready for the last few
> races but
> with the pain killers i'm taking I don't want to***up and cause
> wrecks. Its
> easy enough to do under normal conditions.
>     I have been doing some setups for the road courses and if anyone
> needs something let me know.

>     Pete





>> I didn't know you were having health problems, man.  Hope you feel
>> better soon...

>> Eldred
>> --
>> Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from
>> Michigan(info on my homepage)
>> Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett

>> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

frederickso

Blast From The Past

by frederickso » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:25:16


Well.... I won my first race online with N2003 when I was stoned...

Dave Henri

Blast From The Past

by Dave Henri » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:21:16

   Hold on there John,  aren't you being a little hasty?  After all this
thread is only a few days old...lets beat this around for a couple of weeks
before you cave in.  :)

dave henrie
(I actually raced ONE race on Hawaii.){None on TEN}

ymenar

Blast From The Past

by ymenar » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:58:23


> Then why the heck is such a big stink being made over it ?

Because it's fun.  I see everybody, fighting over things that are SO old
they won't change anything at all.  All those arguying are filled with such
innacuracies and memory lapses.  It's natural.  You know, everybody in this
NG some time or another had a bad thing or two that other people could slap
their fingers on.  Robert or Tom or me or anybody else.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ymenar

Blast From The Past

by ymenar » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:02:35


> Francois....When have you ever been one to let someone else (Papy) do your
> thinking for you?  This doesn't sound like the "ymenard" that I know and
> have been friends with for about 5 or 6 years.  Do **you** think Robert
was
> cheating?  Who cares what Papy said or didn't say!

You know, as being a NROS Guide, I was on both side of the fence on the NROS
and the whole cheating issues.  No, wait, I was kinda sitting plain on top
of it.  I know a lot.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Pete

Blast From The Past

by Pete » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:22:01

    Thanks Don. It takes it toll as much mentally as physically.
Thankfully, I can escape with the PC.

    Pete


Pete

Blast From The Past

by Pete » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:24:28

    Well, I have been accused of being stoned when I wasn't. :-)
The worst part is having severe pain and you don't even get a
buzz out of the pain killers. Plus the tolerance level keeps going
higher and higher. Need more to get the same relief.

    Pete




> Well.... I won my first race online with N2003 when I was stoned...

Joachim Trens

Blast From The Past

by Joachim Trens » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:52:57

John,

why don't you start a little poll among the RASCAR drivers (here or on your
website). That decision will affect each and every driver, and if such a
question were arising in my league, I'd like to have a vote in it, as I'd be
so directly affected.

Achim




> > I will make one point in Roberts defence. He was open in making his
> > request to join Rascar. He could have done it under a false name
> > and no one would have known. I think the fact that he was open and
> > above board suggests he isn't the same person he was many years
> > ago.

> Well, hell. I sat here reading all this stuff (and Pete's message was
> the kicker), and I gotta admit that my decision may have been made a
> bit harsh.

> If you tell Robert to indicate on the RASCAR forum (or here for that
> matter) that he still wants to race with us, I'll go ahead and
> approve his application.

> I hereby officially apologize to Robert for assuming the worst
> without actually experiencing it. I hope there's no hard feelings on
> his end, and that he understands where I was coming from on the
> initial refusal.

Tim

Blast From The Past

by Tim » Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:10:13

Reminds me of the movie 'A beautiful mind' ...
"What's the use of being crazy if you can't have a little fun with it."

:)


> Well.... I won my first race online with N2003 when I was stoned...


rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. As this group was always unmoderated there may be some spam or off topic articles included. Some links do point back to racesimcentral.net as we could not validate the original address. Please report any pages that you believe warrant deletion from this archive (include the link in your email). RaceSimCentral.net is in no way responsible and does not endorse any of the content herein.