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OS recomendation for racing sims?

R Keatin

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by R Keatin » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:53:04

I am currently running Windows ME.  I've heard some say this is the worst
version of Windows to use for racing sims.  I've been doing fairly well with
it, you just have to kill allot of the background junk.

Anyway, if you were putting together a system today and wanted racing sim
(on and offline) performance/stability/driver compatibility ...), what would
you select?  I am thinking it is between Windows 2000 or Windows XP.  I have
Windows 2000 on my work PC and it is way more stable that my ME systems.  On
the other hand, XP is the latest, but I'm not keen on some of stuff MS is
pushing down our throats with XP (maybe I've just heard wrong.)

Thanks,
Russell

bertr

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by bertr » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:28:47

I think you'll find that of lot of guys still stick with trusty old Win 98SE for
a *** rig.

> I am currently running Windows ME.  I've heard some say this is the worst
> version of Windows to use for racing sims.  I've been doing fairly well with
> it, you just have to kill allot of the background junk.

> Anyway, if you were putting together a system today and wanted racing sim
> (on and offline) performance/stability/driver compatibility ...), what would
> you select?  I am thinking it is between Windows 2000 or Windows XP.  I have
> Windows 2000 on my work PC and it is way more stable that my ME systems.  On
> the other hand, XP is the latest, but I'm not keen on some of stuff MS is
> pushing down our throats with XP (maybe I've just heard wrong.)

> Thanks,
> Russell

jason moy

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by jason moy » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:30:28



Between 95/98/ME/2000/XP I stick with 98SE.

It's less stable than 2000/XP but also far less weighted down by the
operating system.  I've used 2000 in a workstation/server environment
and it was ok (if you don't find rebooting your computer every day to
be unusual while your Sun gear stays up for years at a time), unless
you're in a situation where you need security I wouldn't waste my time
with the OS overhead.  Same with XP.

For a single user non-workstation environment, 98SE provides the best
combination of performance via low-system overhead and software
compatibility.  XP is more stable and has better security from a
terminal-user standpoint  but that comes with the price of high
resource overhead and flaky compatibility with older software via
emulation (if that is a concern of yours).

If you're building a system for playing games, you're going to be
rebooting constantly since  XP isn't fully immune to resource leaks,
so the stability should be a non-issue.  If you need a multi-user
environment with tight security in addition to a fast *** platform,
I'd go with a dual boot of Windows 98SE and freeBSD or SuSE linux
myself.

Jason

Kevin Web

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by Kevin Web » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:29:08

"I've heard some say this is the worst version of Windows to use for racing
sims"

It is the worst piece of shit that has ever surfaced from Redmond, period.
It is junk.

I was kinda suprised when I found out N4 ran better on my box with XP home
and then XP pro on another machine than it did when those machines had 98 on
it.  No to mention i haven't had a blue screen or had to reboot because of a
lockup in 6 months with XP.

Internet Use

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by Internet Use » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:04:21


> I am currently running Windows ME.  I've heard some say this is the worst
> version of Windows to use for racing sims.  I've been doing fairly well with
> it, you just have to kill allot of the background junk.

I'm with you.  I did well with ME, as long as the background "junk" is
disabled.  That also sums up my impressions of XP Pro.  I've lost a
frame or two in GPL and SCGT, but overall the OS is extremely stable and
my PC runs for weeks at a time without reboots.
M. Mai

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by M. Mai » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 12:57:57

my PC has never locked up with XP...maybe its just YOU. ;)

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  >I am currently running Windows ME.  I've heard some say this is the worst
  >version of Windows to use for racing sims.  I've been doing fairly well with
  >it, you just have to kill allot of the background junk.
  >
  >Anyway, if you were putting together a system today and wanted racing sim
  >(on and offline) performance/stability/driver compatibility ...), what would
  >you select?  I am thinking it is between Windows 2000 or Windows XP.  I have
  >Windows 2000 on my work PC and it is way more stable that my ME systems.  On
  >the other hand, XP is the latest, but I'm not keen on some of stuff MS is
  >pushing down our throats with XP (maybe I've just heard wrong.)

  Between 95/98/ME/2000/XP I stick with 98SE.

  It's less stable than 2000/XP but also far less weighted down by the
  operating system.  I've used 2000 in a workstation/server environment
  and it was ok (if you don't find rebooting your computer every day to
  be unusual while your Sun gear stays up for years at a time), unless
  you're in a situation where you need security I wouldn't waste my time
  with the OS overhead.  Same with XP.

  For a single user non-workstation environment, 98SE provides the best
  combination of performance via low-system overhead and software
  compatibility.  XP is more stable and has better security from a
  terminal-user standpoint  but that comes with the price of high
  resource overhead and flaky compatibility with older software via
  emulation (if that is a concern of yours).

  If you're building a system for playing games, you're going to be
  rebooting constantly since  XP isn't fully immune to resource leaks,
  so the stability should be a non-issue.  If you need a multi-user
  environment with tight security in addition to a fast *** platform,
  I'd go with a dual boot of Windows 98SE and freeBSD or SuSE linux
  myself.

  Jason

Brian Bowle

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by Brian Bowle » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:00:21

I am using XP and it is great. I would go with it. First make sure your
components on your computer will work with XP. Things like your steering
wheel, video card, sound card, and scanner. Some older things are not
supported. If someone was to buy a copy of an OS today I can not imagine not
going with XP.  For the people who already have win2000 it is a toss up.


> > I am currently running Windows ME.  I've heard some say this is the
worst
> > version of Windows to use for racing sims.  I've been doing fairly well
with
> > it, you just have to kill allot of the background junk.

> I'm with you.  I did well with ME, as long as the background "junk" is
> disabled.  That also sums up my impressions of XP Pro.  I've lost a
> frame or two in GPL and SCGT, but overall the OS is extremely stable and
> my PC runs for weeks at a time without reboots.

Phillip Malphrus, Jr

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by Phillip Malphrus, Jr » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 13:31:20

Staright forward response:

I ran 98SE for years for *** at home and for business at work, switched
to Win2k at work and have seen 98 run at our wide client base as a reseller.
I run Windows XP Prof. now at home and work . I will never, ever go back to
98SE.


mach

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by mach » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 14:32:22


>I think you'll find that of lot of guys still stick with trusty old Win 98SE for
>a *** rig.

Yep. Since some newer games won't install on Win95/OSR2...
So I'll update from 95R2.1 to 98SE some time soon...

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jason moy

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by jason moy » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:56:15



Unfortunately I've gotten sucked into the world of IE (thinking about
trying out Mozilla again, as I hear 1.0 is pretty stable actually) but
there's always the 98lite option.  I was using the OSR2 shell with
Win98 lite awhile ago and getting some nice performance gains.  Normal
98 install with IE 4/5/6 I get 95% system resources free at boot-time,
with the OSR2 shell I've bumped that up to 98-99%.

Jason

Christopher E. Johnso

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by Christopher E. Johnso » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:35:29


says...
This is not my experience with XP at all.  It has been, by far, the most
stable platform I've ever used for ***.  I play all sorts of games
because I review and beta test them and XP has been a breath of fresh
air.  I can honestly say that I've never rebooted a game in XP.  Some
have crashed, but I haven't had to reboot the OS.

Chris

jason moy

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by jason moy » Wed, 10 Jul 2002 21:27:34

On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 07:35:29 -0400, Christopher E. Johnson


>This is not my experience with XP at all.  It has been, by far, the most
>stable platform I've ever used for ***.  I play all sorts of games
>because I review and beta test them and XP has been a breath of fresh
>air.  I can honestly say that I've never rebooted a game in XP.  Some
>have crashed, but I haven't had to reboot the OS.

Without a doubt XP is incredibly stable for a Windows OS.  I apologize
for not emphasizing that more in my original post.

The only thing I didn't like about XP was the resource overhead.

I'm curious.  What sort of resource usage are you seeing in XP both on
a clean boot and after a program crashes?

Jason

Larr

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by Larr » Thu, 11 Jul 2002 00:09:30

From a pure compatibility standpoint, XP is the choice.

But, I understand your hesitation :)

-Larry


Joachim Trens

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by Joachim Trens » Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:45:02

I keep using WinME. With the background stuff disabled, for me it is the
best compromise between speed and stability.

Achim


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MadDAW

OS recomendation for racing sims?

by MadDAW » Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:22:04

Cool someone else that dosen't think WinME is crud. You couldn't pay me to
back to crash happy Win98SE.

Right now I have Win2000 on my game box for grins and gigles. I just like
playoing with new stuff so I thought I'd check it out.

MadDAWG


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