Now, I realize that NFS:PU is a 2-year-old game now, and that there are
probably much better games, in many respects, out there. What should I buy
next?
Thanks,
J.
You should get the 4-year-old Grand Prix Legends.
No kidding.
Jone.
At the moment I reckon the 3 best racing sims (not games) are Grand Prix
Legends and NASCAR Racing 2002 by Papyrus and F1 2002 from EA Sports.
GPL and N2002 offer the best online racing experiences of any sims. F1 2002
is the best modern F1 sim on the market. It also has an open structure so it
is easy to produce modifications and add-ons for it.
Phil
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> > Now, I realize that NFS:PU is a 2-year-old game now, and that there are
> > probably much better games, in many respects, out there. What should I
buy
> > next?
> > Thanks,
> > J.
> At the moment I reckon the 3 best racing sims (not games) are Grand Prix
> Legends and NASCAR Racing 2002 by Papyrus and F1 2002 from EA Sports.
> GPL and N2002 offer the best online racing experiences of any sims. F1
2002
> is the best modern F1 sim on the market. It also has an open structure so
it
> is easy to produce modifications and add-ons for it.
> Phil
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> Racesim Central Administrator
> http://www.racesimcentral.com
In short, this seems to be the majority concensus. F1 2002 (From EA), Grand
Prix Legends (From Sierra/Papyrus) and NASCAR 2002(From Sierra/Papyrus).
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Rob Berryhill
>Now, I realize that NFS:PU is a 2-year-old game now, and that there are
>probably much better games, in many respects, out there. What should I buy
>next?
Everyone is going to recommend Grand Prix Legends. It has a ***
following here that is well deserved, but the game didn't grab me
because I don't care about the era. If you want to slide around in 35
year old Grand Prix cars, theres nothing better. If you're easily
frustrated or don't like the era, anything is better.
You'll also get pounded here for saying anything negative about it, so
I'm preparing for my pounding. LOL.
If you'd like something else with slightly relaxed realism but lots of
fun to play like Porsche Unleashed, I'd recommend Colin McRae Rally 2.
Also, raid the cheapie bin at Best Buy for Viper Racing. This is an
older sim with very realistic physics. It's weaknesses are a limited
number of tracks and no real online play.
NASCAR 2002 has great physics, but unless you really like NASCAR, the
preponderance of oval tracks might be a disappointment.
It's saving grace is online play. If you have a fast connection, you
might like it even if you don't like NASCAR. I can't stay awake
through a real NASCAR race, but the online play in the game saves the
day.
If you simply want some uncomplicated fun similar to NFS5 then I'll suggest
"Insane" a 4x4 offroad game, and Rally Trophy (Rally game obviously ;)) is
also pretty good.
"Mercedes Benz Truck Racing" might have a limited target group, but it is
very well done, the physics are great and the funfactor in tossing those
huge beasts around the tracks is superb.
The final "Must have" thing these days are the various sportscar addons for
F1-2001 made by the simracing community, get F1-2001 and download these mods
for free of the net. They have a VERY high standard, and IMHO they are
better then the original F1 game.
Mikkel Gram-Hansen
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FILSCA
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I have often wondered why anyone would want a game where you just go round
and round the same boring oval track. Actually I don't understand why the
real thing exists for the same reason. I like your comment. No one here has
mentioned V8 Challenge. Whilst I don't like a lot of the tracks mainly
because you cant see corners coming up very well, I do enjoy the Bathurst
track. The cars seem to be a bit difficult to control but that might just be
incompetence lol. The real race would have to be one of the best of it's
type in the world.
> I have often wondered why anyone would want a game where you just go round
> and round the same boring oval track. <snip>
As for oval racing, I kinda enjoy racing on the ovals, it's practicing
them that is tedious to the extreme and (hopefully) the reason why I'm
not very good on the ovals
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--
> > I have often wondered why anyone would want a game where you just go
round
> > and round the same boring oval track. <snip>
> We have several road courses already and more coming, no need to write
> off NR2002 as a road racing sim :-)
> As for oval racing, I kinda enjoy racing on the ovals, it's practicing
> them that is tedious to the extreme and (hopefully) the reason why I'm
> not very good on the ovals
> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> --Groucho Marx--
> Forgive my ignorance. I just have always assumed NASCAR to be oval tracks.
> Guess that's 'cause of the movies.
Go here http://www.theuspits.com/fbody/nascar/index.html and then click
on the "Nascar4" link on the left menu and then on the "tracks" link at
the top on the next page, right at the top should be the link to DL
David Noonan's converter which lets you convert certain tracks from
other Papy sims to NR2002 ..... enjoy :-)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--
Alanb
> > Now, I realize that NFS:PU is a 2-year-old game now, and that there are
> > probably much better games, in many respects, out there. What should I
buy
> > next?
> You should get the 4-year-old Grand Prix Legends.
> No kidding.
> Jone.
Alanb
> >I'm pretty new to car racing games (been playing flight sims forever) and
> >am now absolutely hooked on Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed. I even
went
> >to Costco and dropped CDN$200+taxes on wheels and pedals (Logitech MOMO)
> >just to enhance the experience.
> >Now, I realize that NFS:PU is a 2-year-old game now, and that there are
> >probably much better games, in many respects, out there. What should I
buy
> >next?
> To me, this is a tough one.
> Porsche Unleashed is an old game, but the fun-factor is superb.
> It strikes a rare balance of fun/realism with lots of action and just
> enough handling realism to make the cars feel right. The fact that the
> cars can take tons of damage is really the only thing that throws it
> off. It was a pretty successful title, so I was hoping EA would follow
> it up with something like Ferrari Unleashed, but they seem to have
> dedicated all of their driving guys to Motor City Online.
> Everyone is going to recommend Grand Prix Legends. It has a ***
> following here that is well deserved, but the game didn't grab me
> because I don't care about the era. If you want to slide around in 35
> year old Grand Prix cars, theres nothing better. If you're easily
> frustrated or don't like the era, anything is better.
> You'll also get pounded here for saying anything negative about it, so
> I'm preparing for my pounding. LOL.
> If you'd like something else with slightly relaxed realism but lots of
> fun to play like Porsche Unleashed, I'd recommend Colin McRae Rally 2.
> Also, raid the cheapie bin at Best Buy for Viper Racing. This is an
> older sim with very realistic physics. It's weaknesses are a limited
> number of tracks and no real online play.
> NASCAR 2002 has great physics, but unless you really like NASCAR, the
> preponderance of oval tracks might be a disappointment.
> It's saving grace is online play. If you have a fast connection, you
> might like it even if you don't like NASCAR. I can't stay awake
> through a real NASCAR race, but the online play in the game saves the
> day.
I'm not sold on F12002 yet, so I'd replace it with Viper Racing.
-Larry
> > Now, I realize that NFS:PU is a 2-year-old game now, and that there are
> > probably much better games, in many respects, out there. What should I
buy
> > next?
> > Thanks,
> > J.
> At the moment I reckon the 3 best racing sims (not games) are Grand Prix
> Legends and NASCAR Racing 2002 by Papyrus and F1 2002 from EA Sports.
> GPL and N2002 offer the best online racing experiences of any sims. F1
2002
> is the best modern F1 sim on the market. It also has an open structure so
it
> is easy to produce modifications and add-ons for it.
> Phil
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> Racesim Central Administrator
> http://www.racesimcentral.com
GPL
NR2002
Viper Racing
Rally Trophy
Sports Car GT
I'm not quite there with F12002 yet. Still evaluating the Demo, and will
probably pick it up this weekend if Best Buy has it.
-Larry
I never used to like NASCAR. I didn't buy any NASCAR sims from Papyrus until
*very* recently because driving in circles is nowhere near as fun as sliding
around a real racetrack in GPL (or so I thought). But then, I bought it. I
have been playing it non-stop since that day, joined up in the RASCAR set of
races (private online races for people in rec.autos.simulators), imported
some twisty tracks from other games (including GPL).
NASCAR Racing 2002 Season is a fantastic game. It is quite a bit easier to
race than GPL (you spend a huge amount of time learning to *drive* in GPL,
let alone race) due to the cars themselves, and the physics are better than
any other game available at the moment. It is exciting because wherever you
are on the track there is always somebody around to race against. One minor
collision and you're in the wall, resulting in a ruined race. And you can
always cause 200mph 43-car wrecks :-). The AI cars are adjustable on a
percentage scale, so there is always a challenge. Online play is absolutely
fantastic! Just join in out-of-the-box using the builtin game finder. It
logs your races, giving you points for beating better drivers and taking
them off for losing to worse drivers on a sliding scale, which are then
converted to a 1-10 score, so you know how good everybody is online. It also
logs your LPI (Laps Per Incident), so you can avoid the wreckers. And
participating in a yellow flag pitstop with 30+ drivers all at once online
is always great fun. RASCAR is also pretty decent, as you don't get any
random wreckers possibly spoiling the races.
Seeing as you have a Logitech MOMO, you might as well get the best games for
it! GPL is available for about 5-10 in the UK, and if you get NASCAR Racing
2002 Season in the UK you will get it cheap, as there is little market in
the UK for anything American (its jealousy more than anthing, but that's
another story).
Try them both, and don't give up straight away (especially in GPL). At least
if you give them a really good try, and don't like them, then you haven't
lost much, but I don't really know of anybody who *really* tried them out
and didn't get hooked. Read all the 'RASCAR' threads in rec.autos.simulators
too, to see how the weekly races are going, and decide if you want to be a
part of it.
