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Eldred
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Eldred
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I guess his fans who admire his supposed bold driving style will have a new
impression of him. Apparently it's ok for him to be aggressive, but fail,
but it's not ok for his own teammate to be aggressive and succeed.

David G Fisher

Okay, so let me get this straight.  Being "aggressive and succeeding"
is measured by completing the pass irregardless of any damage you may
cause to the car which you're passing, even if it's your own teammate?
(Or are you now calling JPM a liar for claiming that his steering was
damaged by Ralf's aggression?).  By this new criteria, JPM's move
around the outside of Michael at Sepang was a success since he managed
to get past, albeit at the expense of Michael's front wing.  

If JPM thinks RS did, he's an idiot. Actaully, JPM ran him off the track on
exit. Luckily there wasn't gravel.

David G Fisher

Welcome to the world of  F1 Dave!

:-)

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Well at least they don't complain as much as those NASCAR guys......they
even attack each other after the race. They kind of remind me of how you cry
and whine every time I pass you in RASCAR. 8-p

David G Fisher (thinks we need more trash talk in RASCAR)

Does Spa 1998 ring a bell Dave?

;-)

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Fester

Thats not quite correct Achim,

The FIA fined them US $1 million  for breaching the podium protocol (meaning
the drivers didnt take their correct spots on the forum etc.)  Furthermore
to make the fine even more like a poor joke - Ferrari only have to pay half
of it now and the rest is suspended over 12 months should the same thing
occur again. Meaning the fine is essantially on $500,000 and not a million
bucks.

To quote Autosport.com on the matter:

"The fine has been levied at Ferrari, Michael Schumacher and Rubens
Barrichello for breaking the correct procedure on the podium, not for the
action on the circuit when the Brazilian slowed metres from the finish line
to allow the German to win, as ordered by the team.

In essence, the FIA has given Ferrari little more than a slap on the wrist.
Only half of the $1 million must be paid immediately, with the other half
suspended for a year. The team will only have to pay the full amount should
a similar podium offence occur within the next 12 months.

The FIA issued a release following this morning's special meeting of the
World Motor Sport Council, saying that it "deplored the manner in which team
orders were given and executed at the Austrian GP. Nevertheless the council
finds it impossible to sanction the two drivers, because they were
contractually bound to execute orders given by the team."

The council also acknowledged "the long-standing and traditional right of a
team to decree the finishing order of its drivers in what it believes to be
the best interest of its attempt to win both world championships".

With that in mind, the council decided to take no action against Ferrari,
although admitting at the same time that it did so "with some reluctance".

Schumacher and Barrichello broke Article 170 of the Formula 1 Sporting
Regulations when the four-times world champion allowed his team-mate on to
the top step of the podium, despite having actually won the race himself.

The FIA statement said: "It is the duty of each team to ensure that its
contracted drivers observe the podium procedures and do not in any way
embarras the national authorities of the country where a GP takes place."

Speculation since the A1-Ring race had been that Ferrari would lose the
constructors' championship points it gained for the one-two result. A race
ban for the team was always considered only an outside possibility. "

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FIA isn't NASCAR, where the sanctioning body means more than the
teams.  NASCAR could lose Rousch, Hendrick, Yates, Childress, and
Gibbs and still be the biggest draw in the United States.  Take
Ferrari or Mclaren or Williams out of F1, and you lose a huge chunk of
your fanbase.  If Ferrari, for instance, left F1 and went to CART I
have a feeling they'd be taking Monza and the entire motorsport
community of Italy with them.  FIA can't afford that.

Jason

Spanish GP 1994. Came in a fine 2nd to Hill

MS

Well, it's the British Grand Prix this weekend... :-)

Jonny