>Yep, agreed.
I should have said "I don't see a problem with the team manager saying
'slow down and let him pass' or 'don't fight for position'.
Jason
In the beginning I found him a fresh breath of air in a booooooring F1
field. Now the novelty has worn off and he still drives like he did in the
beginning, much too hotheaded.
Mikkel
PS: Anyways, it's nice to be able to disagree without getting into a
flamewar... an exchange like this could never happen in the F1 newsgroup ;)
What you have to wait for is for Schumacher to retire. Then - and not a
second earlier - will his team fully support a second driver.
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I tried to understand what you meant, but I gave up...just couldn't wrap
my mind around it...
dave henrie
>>>So doing
>>>nothing at the right time is sometimes better than doing something at
> the
>>>wrong time. Problem is, JPM still has the times mixed up slightly.
>>To an extent I agree. But like I've always taught all my kids, It's
>>better to try & fail than never to try at all. Many may not catch that
>>though.
>>Fester
> I tried to understand what you meant, but I gave up...just couldn't wrap
> my mind around it...
> dave henrie
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IMO, you can accept or disagree with the use of team tactics, but it is
questionable to agree with team tactics when their outcome is to your
liking, and to disagree with them when it's not.
I.e., I agree to your above statement, and that's how I'd understood your
first statement as well.
Achim
Achim
> IMO, you can accept or disagree with the use of team tactics, but it is
> questionable to agree with team tactics when their outcome is to your
> liking, and to disagree with them when it's not.
> I.e., I agree to your above statement, and that's how I'd understood your
> first statement as well.
> Achim
I.e. most people will not find it too much of a problem if 10 laps from the
end, in a 1-2 position, with a healthy lead the team boss tells the drivers
to stop racing, and make sure they get home in one piece.
I bet the argue, "But if _that's_ acceptable, what's the difference between
that and asking the drivers to swap position?"
And to be honest, there isn't much is there? Stopping racing near the end of
a race is something that _drivers_ often choose to do.
I.e. If you're 3rd, 10 seconds behind 2nd, and 30 seconds ahead of 4th, with
10 laps to go, you may decide to opt for 3rd, rather than pushing hard to
try to catch 2nd place man, and risk going off, or something breaking.
I think Ferrari will have a good case.
Still don't agree with it, though ;-)
R.
Achim
> > ...
> > > I should have said "I don't see a problem with the team manager
> > > saying 'slow down and let him pass' or 'don't fight for position'.
> > ...
> > IMO, you can accept or disagree with the use of team tactics, but it is
> > questionable to agree with team tactics when their outcome is to your
> > liking, and to disagree with them when it's not.
> > I.e., I agree to your above statement, and that's how I'd understood
your
> > first statement as well.
> > Achim
> I would have thought that letting Rubens win is a very tactical move for
> Ferrari for their case.
> I.e. most people will not find it too much of a problem if 10 laps from
the
> end, in a 1-2 position, with a healthy lead the team boss tells the
drivers
> to stop racing, and make sure they get home in one piece.
> I bet the argue, "But if _that's_ acceptable, what's the difference
between
> that and asking the drivers to swap position?"
> And to be honest, there isn't much is there? Stopping racing near the end
of
> a race is something that _drivers_ often choose to do.
> I.e. If you're 3rd, 10 seconds behind 2nd, and 30 seconds ahead of 4th,
with
> 10 laps to go, you may decide to opt for 3rd, rather than pushing hard to
> try to catch 2nd place man, and risk going off, or something breaking.
> I think Ferrari will have a good case.
> Still don't agree with it, though ;-)
> R.
The mind boggles.
Jan.
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Essentially, FIA knew they couldn't defend a fine for something that
didn't violate the rules of the sport, so they fined them because
Schui expressed his disgust over taking a win from Rubens.
Gah. And I thought the criticism Schui was taking for not hammering
on his brakes when Rubens slowed down was ridiculous.
Jason
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 19:26:41 -0000, "Joachim Trensz"
>Achim
>> > ...
>> > > I should have said "I don't see a problem with the team manager
>> > > saying 'slow down and let him pass' or 'don't fight for position'.
>> > ...
>> > IMO, you can accept or disagree with the use of team tactics, but it is
>> > questionable to agree with team tactics when their outcome is to your
>> > liking, and to disagree with them when it's not.
>> > I.e., I agree to your above statement, and that's how I'd understood
>your
>> > first statement as well.
>> > Achim
>> I would have thought that letting Rubens win is a very tactical move for
>> Ferrari for their case.
>> I.e. most people will not find it too much of a problem if 10 laps from
>the
>> end, in a 1-2 position, with a healthy lead the team boss tells the
>drivers
>> to stop racing, and make sure they get home in one piece.
>> I bet the argue, "But if _that's_ acceptable, what's the difference
>between
>> that and asking the drivers to swap position?"
>> And to be honest, there isn't much is there? Stopping racing near the end
>of
>> a race is something that _drivers_ often choose to do.
>> I.e. If you're 3rd, 10 seconds behind 2nd, and 30 seconds ahead of 4th,
>with
>> 10 laps to go, you may decide to opt for 3rd, rather than pushing hard to
>> try to catch 2nd place man, and risk going off, or something breaking.
>> I think Ferrari will have a good case.
>> Still don't agree with it, though ;-)
>> R.
Achim
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