rec.autos.simulators

by **Chris Arnd** » Wed, 29 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Don't lock up the brakes :-) It's really bad on the tires when you do. That
black trail you see in your mirror is just a lap's worth of tread shreaded
off the tires :-(

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Chris Arndt
===============================
1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
1999 ISR Shootout Runner up
"All I can do on a given day is put myself
in a position to win, and let circumstances
dictate the outcome"
-Richard Petty
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **Shaun Robinso** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it
possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a
number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's
really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza
then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the
15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you
let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car
snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a
great game...

by **Shaun Robinso** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Duh... (not be taken sarcastically or harshly). Its right at the thresh
hold of skidding. The wheel will keep spinning but not at the same speed
as the other one, looks really neat from in car.

> Don't lock up the brakes :-) It's really bad on the tires when you do. That
> black trail you see in your mirror is just a lap's worth of tread shreaded
> off the tires :-(

> --

> Chris Arndt
> ===============================
> 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
> 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up
> "All I can do on a given day is put myself
> in a position to win, and let circumstances
> dictate the outcome"
> -Richard Petty
> http://CArndt.tripod.com

> > Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it
> > possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a
> > number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's
> > really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza
> > then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the
> > 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you
> > let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car
> > snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a
> > great game...

by **Chris Arnd** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

ohhhh.

Sounds like too much weight on one tire vs another. It seems to me that I
had that problem at Kylami. To fix it I just stopped the sliding all
together by removing front brake.

--

Chris Arndt
===============================
1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
1999 ISR Shootout Runner up
"All I can do on a given day is put myself
in a position to win, and let circumstances
dictate the outcome"
-Richard Petty
http://CArndt.tripod.com

> Duh... (not be taken sarcastically or harshly). Its right at the thresh
> hold of skidding. The wheel will keep spinning but not at the same speed
> as the other one, looks really neat from in car.

> > Don't lock up the brakes :-) It's really bad on the tires when you do.
That
> > black trail you see in your mirror is just a lap's worth of tread
shreaded
> > off the tires :-(

> > --

> > Chris Arndt
> > ===============================
> > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
> > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up
> > "All I can do on a given day is put myself
> > in a position to win, and let circumstances
> > dictate the outcome"
> > -Richard Petty
> > http://CArndt.tripod.com

> > > Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it
> > > possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and
a
> > > number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's
> > > really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza
> > > then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on
the
> > > 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then
you
> > > let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car
> > > snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a
> > > great game...

by **Shaun Robinso** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Well that would do and wrap the back end around in many amusing ways at
the same time.
I'll try it though...

> ohhhh.

> Sounds like too much weight on one tire vs another. It seems to me that I
> had that problem at Kylami. To fix it I just stopped the sliding all
> together by removing front brake.

> --

> Chris Arndt
> ===============================
> 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
> 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up
> "All I can do on a given day is put myself
> in a position to win, and let circumstances
> dictate the outcome"
> -Richard Petty
> http://CArndt.tripod.com

> > Duh... (not be taken sarcastically or harshly). Its right at the thresh
> > hold of skidding. The wheel will keep spinning but not at the same speed
> > as the other one, looks really neat from in car.

> > > Don't lock up the brakes :-) It's really bad on the tires when you do.
> That
> > > black trail you see in your mirror is just a lap's worth of tread
> shreaded
> > > off the tires :-(

> > > --

> > > Chris Arndt
> > > ===============================
> > > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
> > > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up
> > > "All I can do on a given day is put myself
> > > in a position to win, and let circumstances
> > > dictate the outcome"
> > > -Richard Petty
> > > http://CArndt.tripod.com

> > > > Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it
> > > > possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and
> a
> > > > number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's
> > > > really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza
> > > > then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on
> the
> > > > 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then
> you
> > > > let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car
> > > > snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a
> > > > great game...

by **john moor** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

It's a setup issue. When a car is setup to turn better one way than the
other it will have a tendency to lock one tire before the others. Look at
the camber and shock settings. Problem is then it won't turn as good of
laps. Find a happy medium. Sounds like you can modulate the pedal just
fine.
JM

> Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it
> possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a
> number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's
> really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza
> then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the
> 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you
> let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car
> snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a
> great game...

by **Matthew Birger Knutse** » Fri, 31 Dec 1999 04:00:00

>> Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it
>> possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a
>> number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's
>> really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza
>> then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the
>> 15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you
>> let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car
>> snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a
>> great game...

Another idea is to tamper with the rebound & bump settings, I've managed to
run several road courses with assymetric setup in this dept, with success
(to my own level anyway!) This goes for both front & rear (typical exit of
final turn at Kyalami where inside rear wants to break loose all the time!)
Also, for more stable braking, try more clutches on the diff. Be prepared
for some more push freewheeling, and more bite on the throttle.

Matt

by **Christer Andersso** » Fri, 31 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Use a joystick ;o). Your direction corrections will be more vivid and it
seems as if this lowers the grip of the front wheels in GPL quite a lot...
If I'm right about this then you will be allowed to have a more radical
setup when using a joystick... I'm not sure it's true though, but I've
noticed that I can take corners with more ease with a wheel if I have a low
steering ratio (1:10 or 10:1, dont remember which order in GPL) and steer a
lot (work the wheel) when going into corners. It seems as if it's possible
to get understeer by working the wheel...

Remember that Papyrus used joysticks when they developed GPL... I dont know
how this have affected the physics model...

/Chrille, doesn't use a joystick, cause of the realism factor...

>Let's say that one wheel, front, locks up but not the other. How is it
>possible to fix this. Providing that i've tried softer suspension and a
>number of different camber angles to the wheel that does lock up. It's
>really annoying when your attempting to do a GP length race at Monza
>then your gets trashed because you're braking for the Parabolica on the
>15th lap, the wheel locks up, the car pulls to that direction, then you
>let off the brakes then try to correct the steering and then the car
>snaps to the other side and you finally meet Mr. Armco. Isn't this a
>great game...

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