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Attn Dave Henrie ATI 9500 Pro

Samuel Senio

Attn Dave Henrie ATI 9500 Pro

by Samuel Senio » Wed, 14 May 2003 16:32:42

Well, I just installed the third 9500 Pro, and it still fails to boot
my machine. They say the card is OK. I'm beginning to believe them.
Must be incompatible with my motherboard, or something. I'm about
ready to buy an off-the-shelf *** computer. Any ideas? Case of coke
still available. OT: I was in Germany this week and visited
Hockenheim. Interesting, but the shortened course takes a lot out of
it. Some BMW drivers were doing 2:52 laps. Cheers,
Sam
Dave Henri

Attn Dave Henrie ATI 9500 Pro

by Dave Henri » Wed, 14 May 2003 22:08:05



  That REALLY must be frustrating.  I never liked the old circuit cuz the
chicanes were usually problematic for me.  I'm not a big fan of chicanes in
the first place so that track was like a poster child for bad racing.  The
new track trades rinky dink chicanes for a double infield.  I would have
like to have seen the 2nd straight after the pit/straight extended and
another hairpin added.  That would have doubled the decent passing areas.  
Oh well.  
  As far as your motherboard, could it be power?  Most of the newer cards
need a line from the power brick to fully function.  But it should still
boot.  I wonder if you just have too many devices draining too much power.  
Try a barebones boot where all you have is a harddrive connected.  Pull the
power plugs from the cdrom/dvd's, slave hard drives, floppies, anything
that can drain power.  Disconnect all USB devices, just keyboard, mouse and
harddrive and see it that gets it running.
  IF so you'll need a beefier power supply.
dave henrie

Ashley McConnel

Attn Dave Henrie ATI 9500 Pro

by Ashley McConnel » Wed, 14 May 2003 22:16:05


What motherboard, there have been problems with some (abit i think)
motherboards.  This *may* be solved by updating your bios (with another card
in!)

All the best,
Ash
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Stewar

Attn Dave Henrie ATI 9500 Pro

by Stewar » Thu, 15 May 2003 04:52:46



> > Well, I just installed the third 9500 Pro, and it still fails to boot
> > my machine. They say the card is OK. I'm beginning to believe them.
> > Must be incompatible with my motherboard, or something. I'm about
> > ready to buy an off-the-shelf *** computer. Any ideas? Case of coke
> > still available. OT: I was in Germany this week and visited
> > Hockenheim. Interesting, but the shortened course takes a lot out of
> > it. Some BMW drivers were doing 2:52 laps. Cheers,
> > Sam

I remember a similar problem I had trying to install a GF2 GTS on a Abit
KT7A mobo.  The fix was a setting in the BIOS to delay starting the boot
sequence for about 4 seconds to give the card enough time to draw sufficient
power or some such thing.  Sorry I can't be more specific but it worked for
me, indeed I just installed a 9700np card on the same mob last night and so
far all seems to be working fine :-)

Stewart

Samuel Senio

Attn Dave Henrie ATI 9500 Pro

by Samuel Senio » Thu, 15 May 2003 16:07:31





>> Well, I just installed the third 9500 Pro, and it still fails to boot
>> my machine. They say the card is OK. I'm beginning to believe them.
>> Must be incompatible with my motherboard, or something. I'm about
>> ready to buy an off-the-shelf *** computer. Any ideas? Case of coke
>> still available. OT: I was in Germany this week and visited
>> Hockenheim. Interesting, but the shortened course takes a lot out of
>> it. Some BMW drivers were doing 2:52 laps. Cheers,
>> Sam
...........
>  As far as your motherboard, could it be power?  Most of the newer cards
>need a line from the power brick to fully function.  But it should still
>boot.  I wonder if you just have too many devices draining too much power.  
>Try a barebones boot where all you have is a harddrive connected.  Pull the
>power plugs from the cdrom/dvd's, slave hard drives, floppies, anything
>that can drain power.  Disconnect all USB devices, just keyboard, mouse and
>harddrive and see it that gets it running.
>  IF so you'll need a beefier power supply.
>dave henrie

Yeh, I tried disconnecting everything. Then I put in a 420 watt power
supply, which should be enough to crank a Harley. Also a new
motherboard. Updated bios, but haven't tried that trick of delaying
the boot. Not sure how to do that. System description:

Product name        Genuine Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 processor based
Board model         Genuine Intel(R) D845GBV system board
OS version          Windows* 2000 version 5.0 Service Pack 2 build
2195
OS memory           252,720 KB RAM                                

Processor           Genuine Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 processor
Processor speed     2.27 GHz
Bus speed           533 MHz
L1 cache            Data Cache 8KB, Execution Trace Cache 12K
Micro-ops
L2 cache            Advanced Transfer Cache 512 KB
Form factor         Unknown
Stepping            4                              

Physical memory     256 MB RAM
Memory speed        266 MHz
Memory type         SDRAM, Synchronous
Form factor         DIMM
BIOS date           04/12/2002
BIOS size           512 KB
BIOS version        P01 (RG84510A.86A.0006.P01.0204121445)

 Cheers, and MORE cheers if I ever get this fixed!
Sam

Dave Henri

Attn Dave Henrie ATI 9500 Pro

by Dave Henri » Thu, 15 May 2003 22:23:15



   Is your current motherboard one that has built in video as an option?  
Like the Nforce2 Nvidia boards?  Dig through the bios to make sure that
option is turned off.  
   Then the desperation stuff,  put in a working video card, and choose the
plain vga/agp video setting.  Get that working and remove the card from the
device manager and then physically remove it.  Have  you tried booting in
safe mode?
dave henrie

Samuel Senio

Attn Dave Henrie ATI 9500 Pro

by Samuel Senio » Sun, 18 May 2003 16:34:56



Whoopieeee! Finally, after a six month battle, the card will boot and
operate! Thanx for all the suggestions. We looked at the latest bios
update, and it said something about a fix for failure to boot on
another card. We tried it anyway, and it booted!!! So it appears it
was a bios problem. GPL is much smoother now, and GTR runs fine.
My *** pressure has returned to par. Cheers, Happysam

Dave Henri

Attn Dave Henrie ATI 9500 Pro

by Dave Henri » Sun, 18 May 2003 22:34:51

Samuel Senior
GPL is much smoother now, and GTR runs fine.
   great news...that is disturbing tho that a bios problem would keep the
cards from even booting.  Have fun...check out the BPR mod and shortly the
Ferrari challenge for GTR. And hopefully by the time LeMans runs the 2k2
version should be out as well.
dave henrie

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