rec.autos.simulators

by **V \** » Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:25:27

I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I
was expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games,
well.........I got the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I
start a game, I get either what looks like a monitor gone into standby
mode, screen goes black light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the
game freezes and I can move my mouse...but only vertically and one
position. A couple times I got a bunch of vertical lines and the music
still played vor a few more secs than it looped itself. This happens
within a minute including loading time for the game. Oviously I can
still surf and work on the desktop seeing how I can post here. Does it
sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the moment before I took the
old board and chip out, I played a game so I could get a fresh
comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the card, with
heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it possible the
new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am not entirely
new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've had this
happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS
settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a
link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note,
is the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.

by **Amy L** » Mon, 10 Oct 2005 05:14:57

Some games after changes will require you to re-run the graphics setup.
Have you tried that?

Amy

by **V \** » Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:18:51

Yes I am aware of redoing my settings. After a long night of trying what I
conclude as almost evrything, my system came down to the point of ONLY
powering itself....it is stuck in "RTC" mode. Trying to read real time
clock. Turns out that it may be an issue with the board. The board may be
defective entirely as the chip would run at 83c when normally this chips
runs no higher than 70c according to some support and tech sites. It's
thanksgiving weekend in Canada, so I can't even contact the retailer until
tuesday now..sucks, because now there is 3 days between purchase and
contact. I really hope the video issue is attributed to a faulty board.
thanks for the suggestion though.......but the video issue now seems the
lessor of 2 evils.

> Some games after changes will require you to re-run the graphics setup.
> Have you tried that?

> Amy

>>I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I was
>>expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games, well.........I got
>>the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I start a game, I get
>>either what looks like a monitor gone into standby mode, screen goes black
>>light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the game freezes and I can
>>move my mouse...but only vertically and one position. A couple times I got
>>a bunch of vertical lines and the music still played vor a few more secs
>>than it looped itself. This happens within a minute including loading time
>>for the game. Oviously I can still surf and work on the desktop seeing how
>>I can post here. Does it sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the
>>moment before I took the old board and chip out, I played a game so I
>>could get a fresh comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the
>>card, with heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it
>>possible the new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am
>>not entirely new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've
>>had this happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS
>>settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a
>>link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note, is
>>the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.

by **JML** » Tue, 11 Oct 2005 06:09:16

I had a llittle bit similar problem for months. My Ati 9600 XT Turbo worked
for 30+ minutes and then just crashed. In some cases mouse moved and sounds
were still playing, but couldnt control anything.

It only happened in some new games that need a lot from adapter (GTR and
BF2). I tried to change everything, starting from display drivers, added RAM
memory etc. Finally I had help from one forum. I ran Everest software and
some pro noticed from the report that although I had AGP adapter, my
computer for some strange reason thought display adapter is running in PCI
bus. With so, the computer ran display adapter memory bus on 1/4 of normal
speed. I updated SIS motherboard AGP drivers and immediately it helped. No
problems what so ever.

After these problems I tested the card with a test software and got around
3400 points (before that, 1280). Cause I already was frustrated of the
problem, I ordered a new computer (before the problem was solved) with AMD
4000+ and PCI-Express nVidia Gainward GS 7800 GT card. Well, have to say
that I dont have a single game more, that couldnt be runned with 100% detail
levels etc. Its great and together with the graphic detail level the
computer is around 10 times faster than my older one (Intel 2.4 MHz with ATi
9600Pro Turbo).

I wouldnt go for ATI anymore. Driver updates are a mess and it seems that at
least those games I play, ATI has 10 times the problems than nVidia based
adapters.Drivers are easy to update and you dont need different driver
versions from different manufacturers with nVidia. For me - never ATI again!

by **Philth** » Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:55:46

Dumb question, but you *DID* reinstall your OS with a clean install,
didn't you? You just gave your PC a brain trans-plant.

Phil

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:25:27 -0400, "V \"fnugen\""

>I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I
>was expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games,
>well.........I got the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I
>start a game, I get either what looks like a monitor gone into standby
>mode, screen goes black light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the
>game freezes and I can move my mouse...but only vertically and one
>position. A couple times I got a bunch of vertical lines and the music
>still played vor a few more secs than it looped itself. This happens
>within a minute including loading time for the game. Oviously I can
>still surf and work on the desktop seeing how I can post here. Does it
>sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the moment before I took the
>old board and chip out, I played a game so I could get a fresh
>comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the card, with
>heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it possible the
>new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am not entirely
>new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've had this
>happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS
>settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a
>link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note,
>is the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.

by **Dave** » Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:24:56

> I ordered a new computer (before the problem was solved) with AMD
> 4000+ and PCI-Express nVidia Gainward GS 7800 GT card. Well, >have to say
> that I dont have a single game more, that couldnt be runned with 100% detail
> levels etc. Its great and together with the graphic detail level the
> computer is around 10 times faster than my older one (Intel 2.4 MHz with ATi
> 9600Pro Turbo).

What was the price on that setup? I'm looking to buy a new box myself.
Thanks!
Dave

by **V \** » Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:28:55

Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I know.......tried
to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the "save time" phrase
rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good reason to enquire into the
64b XP now.

Verne

> Dumb question, but you *DID* reinstall your OS with a clean install,
> didn't you? You just gave your PC a brain trans-plant.

> Phil

> On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:25:27 -0400, "V \"fnugen\""

>>I just installed a brand new MSI K8Tneo2-f mobo and an AMD64 3500+. I
>>was expecting leaps and bounds better graphics in my games,
>>well.........I got the exact opposite. I have an ATI 9800pro. Now when I
>>start a game, I get either what looks like a monitor gone into standby
>>mode, screen goes black light goes to yellow, or the game freezes or the
>>game freezes and I can move my mouse...but only vertically and one
>>position. A couple times I got a bunch of vertical lines and the music
>>still played vor a few more secs than it looped itself. This happens
>>within a minute including loading time for the game. Oviously I can
>>still surf and work on the desktop seeing how I can post here. Does it
>>sound like my card is cooked? It was fine the moment before I took the
>>old board and chip out, I played a game so I could get a fresh
>>comparison. I already placed a Vantec ICEBERQ fan on the card, with
>>heatsinks on he ram chips because the old fan died. Is it possible the
>>new board heats the card beyond this coolers capacity? I am not entirely
>>new to mobo/cpu replacement, but this is the first time I've had this
>>happen. I can't see anything obvious in the BIOS
>>settings.................can somebody make some suggestions or give me a
>>link to a good vidcard tester before I go buy a new card. On that note,
>>is the Sapphire 9600XT 256m, any good........just in case.

by **V \** » Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:32:46

>> I ordered a new computer (before the problem was solved) with AMD
>> 4000+ and PCI-Express nVidia Gainward GS 7800 GT card. Well, >have to say
>> that I dont have a single game more, that couldnt be runned with 100%
>> detail
>> levels etc. Its great and together with the graphic detail level the
>> computer is around 10 times faster than my older one (Intel 2.4 MHz with
>> ATi
>> 9600Pro Turbo).

> What was the price on that setup? I'm looking to buy a new box myself.
> Thanks!
> Dave

I got them for $471 CDN. Was the best deal I could get close by, and in
stock items. I can't comment on the quality yet, as I haven't gotten that
far. Problems arose. BUT.........I can't wait to find out how GTL runs, my
ultimate goal, all the F1c mods 2nd then GTR.

Verne

by **Goy Larse** » Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:28:38

> Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I know.......tried
> to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the "save time" phrase
> rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good reason to enquire into the
> 64b XP now.

While there is no performance hit from running 64b over 32b XP, nor is
there currently a performance gain you'd notice, you could end up having
peripherals that no longer work depending on whether they have 64 bit
driver available for them, so make sure you check for driver
availability before taking the plunge

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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they shall perform the Parrot Sketch..."

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by **JML** » Wed, 12 Oct 2005 03:53:56

I paid 1400 euros for my set with 2 Gt RAM, Gainward GS 7800 GT and AMD
4000+ processor. I have to say that although Ive been in IT business for
years, this is the first time I really have a MACHINE that works in games
perfectly (for some months at least ;-)

>> I ordered a new computer (before the problem was solved) with AMD
>> 4000+ and PCI-Express nVidia Gainward GS 7800 GT card. Well, >have to say
>> that I dont have a single game more, that couldnt be runned with 100%
>> detail
>> levels etc. Its great and together with the graphic detail level the
>> computer is around 10 times faster than my older one (Intel 2.4 MHz with
>> ATi
>> 9600Pro Turbo).

> What was the price on that setup? I'm looking to buy a new box myself.
> Thanks!
> Dave

by **Ed Medli** » Wed, 12 Oct 2005 22:31:48

You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video drivers to
save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies.

Ed

by **V \** » Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:11:23

>>Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I know.......tried
>>to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the "save time" phrase
>>rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good reason to enquire into
>>the 64b XP now.

> You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video drivers to
> save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies.

> Ed

Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying
it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is
then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver
issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a
9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA
K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide
show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even
ask....holy ***!!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as
well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring)
reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well.

Verne

by **V \** » Fri, 14 Oct 2005 03:35:03

>>> Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I
>>> know.......tried to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the
>>> "save time" phrase rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good
>>> reason to enquire into the 64b XP now.

>> You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video
>> drivers to save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies.

>> Ed

> Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying
> it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is
> then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver
> issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a
> 9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA
> K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide
> show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even
> ask....holy ***!!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as
> well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring)
> reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well.

> Verne

Okay.........stupid question time. How do I boot my pc off the winXP cd
to attempt a repair of XP ?? I placed the CD in my drive, changed CMOS
to 1st boot cd/dvd..........and it goes right into windows. WTF am I not
doing right ?? Off the CD I have install, or upgrade when in
windows.....can I shortcut my way through to the repair option through
there?? Not ready for a refromt yet, want to try the repair side of XP
and see........help !!!

Verne

by **Remco Moed** » Fri, 14 Oct 2005 03:48:40

On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:35:03 -0400, "V \"fnugen\""

>>>> Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I
>>>> know.......tried to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the
>>>> "save time" phrase rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good
>>>> reason to enquire into the 64b XP now.

>>> You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video
>>> drivers to save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies.

>>> Ed

>> Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying
>> it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is
>> then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver
>> issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a
>> 9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA
>> K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide
>> show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even
>> ask....holy ***!!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as
>> well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring)
>> reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well.

>> Verne

>Okay.........stupid question time. How do I boot my pc off the winXP cd
>to attempt a repair of XP ?? I placed the CD in my drive, changed CMOS
>to 1st boot cd/dvd..........and it goes right into windows. WTF am I not
>doing right ?? Off the CD I have install, or upgrade when in
>windows.....can I shortcut my way through to the repair option through
>there?? Not ready for a refromt yet, want to try the repair side of XP
>and see........help !!!

During boot up you should get a message like "Press a key to boot from
CD"

Cheers!

Remco

by **V \** » Fri, 14 Oct 2005 04:19:46

> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:35:03 -0400, "V \"fnugen\""

>>>>>Not a dumb question at all.........I ummmmmm, didn't. I
>>>>>know.......tried to cut a corner. Should have realized as soon as the
>>>>>"save time" phrase rattled through my head. LIVE AND LEARN !!! Good
>>>>>reason to enquire into the 64b XP now.

>>>>You can do a repair install, then reinstall all the MB and video
>>>>drivers to save some time. It sure beats reinstalling all your proggies.

>>>>Ed

>>>Yeah, kind of my lines of thinking. WHat have i got to lose by trying
>>>it, I had already reserved myself to a reformat.........so if that is
>>>then result, already in the mindset. I de believe it is old board driver
>>>issues. Doing a 3d config in F1c, I get a rating of "videoram=114" on a
>>>9800pro. Ummmmmm, nuh-uh !!! Via 400 chipset from old board and VIA
>>>K8T800pro shipset on the new. Must be conflicts somewhere. I get a slide
>>>show on F1c when it used to be smooth and fluid, GTL........do NOT even
>>>ask....holy ***!!! I have updated and backdated the cat's as
>>>well......still same.........so repair and ultimately (by my figuring)
>>>reformat in near future. sucks, but oh well.

>>> Verne

>>Okay.........stupid question time. How do I boot my pc off the winXP cd
>>to attempt a repair of XP ?? I placed the CD in my drive, changed CMOS
>>to 1st boot cd/dvd..........and it goes right into windows. WTF am I not
>>doing right ?? Off the CD I have install, or upgrade when in
>>windows.....can I shortcut my way through to the repair option through
>>there?? Not ready for a refromt yet, want to try the repair side of XP
>>and see........help !!!

> During boot up you should get a message like "Press a key to boot from
> CD"

> Cheers!

> Remco

Ok, cool. That did it. I had walked away for a minute while booting
expecting a prompt...my bad. My problem now, having never set an admin
passwor, when it gets to that point in the repair menu, I hit enter and
get the next C:\windows prompt........then it just sits there, is there
some kind of command I am supposed to type ? I get stuck at that point
now. thanks

V

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