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So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

drinklim

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by drinklim » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:40:31

I'm thinking about getting N4, but am wondering how it compares overall on
the tracks besides the demo to nascar heat. I want nascar 4, but am
wondering how much merit all the negative posts have.
ymenar

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by ymenar » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:46:31


> I'm thinking about getting N4, but am wondering how it compares overall on
> the tracks besides the demo to nascar heat. I want nascar 4, but am
> wondering how much merit all the negative posts have.

It's always normal to have negative comments after a title is released.
People who like the title don't really praise it over the NG's.  But be sure
that the amount of negative message for NH was immensly higher then what we
have presently with N4.

N4 is presently the most complete racing sim ever.

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Eddie Petti

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by Eddie Petti » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:45:34

N4 blows NH out of the water.


Rod Princ

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by Rod Princ » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:57:16



They both have their positive and negative aspects, but I don't
think you can go wrong if you were to pick either or both of
them up.

Cheers,
Rod.

gave

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by gave » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:36:22

Get em both. You'll have a blast!
Gavel

Jag

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by Jag » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:29:23

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 05:45:34 GMT, "Eddie Pettit"

I don't think so. If they can fix the remaining issues with Heat then
it is a very worthy contender, IMO.
--
Jagg

Mike Donnelly J

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by Mike Donnelly J » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:34:31



> >I'm thinking about getting N4, but am wondering how it compares overall on
> >the tracks besides the demo to nascar heat. I want nascar 4, but am
> >wondering how much merit all the negative posts have.

I'll say this: I had Heat for about 24 hours.  The lack of a damage model kinda
killed it for me right off the bat.  I understand that they patched it, but
that was inexcusable for me to release a *sim* without an adequate damage
model.  A game is okay without damage, at least to me, but then it has to come
out as a game.

I understand that they came out with a patch, but, that came out after I had
already returned my CD.  So, the current state of NH isn't something I can
comment on, but I did have to mention my experience.  Your milage may vary.

18pAC

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by 18pAC » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:51:40

NH is much better sim on lower end systems-ie anything less than 1ghz and
less than GEforce GTS...no comparison...

Andre Warring

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by Andre Warring » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:39:40


>NH is much better sim on lower end systems-ie anything less than 1ghz and
>less than GEforce GTS...no comparison...

Well - to put it in other words - NH is not better than N4, but N4
simply can't be run on a slower system..
I have a PIII500 V3 3000, and in 640 resolution, allmost all graphics
off or on lowest detail, I get a smashing 10-15 fps at the back of a
full grid (4 cars drawn in front, 2 at the rear).
With a crash in front of me, it even drops back to 4-5 fps.

And yes, 36fps in GPL with a full field.
NH runs perfect with a full field, and imho the graphics of NH are
much better than N4.
Too bad the bugs of NH never got sorted out, it could have been a
killer.

Andre.



>> I'm thinking about getting N4, but am wondering how it compares overall on
>> the tracks besides the demo to nascar heat. I want nascar 4, but am
>> wondering how much merit all the negative posts have.

Roger

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by Roger » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:36:27

I agree totally no comparision N4 wins hands down. Heat has a Arcade feel to
it.
Roger

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by Roger » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:45:12

I really enjoy the AI plowing into you while pitting and on yellow
flags. The damage is bad, and if you crack up the front end you'll see
no motor under the hood. What this......... a propane car !  The
way they start a race is poor IMO . I would not recomend it to no
one as a matter of fact I feel like a fool for buying it, but then again
it was bought to hold me over to N4 was released so
it suited its purpose.




> >I'm thinking about getting N4, but am wondering how it compares overall
on
> >the tracks besides the demo to nascar heat. I want nascar 4, but am
> >wondering how much merit all the negative posts have.

> I had been driving a lot of Heat online, and at first I wasn't very
> impressed.  It's different, but I found that if I unlearned some Heat
> things it's damn good.  I thought it was more difficult to drive, but
> once I got the feel it was great.  Different (and better) is the best
> I can describe.  All kinds of stuff to tweak in the garage.  I wasn't
> too impressed with the sound,***pit view is worse than bad, and the
> rearview mirror reminds me of a fishbowl - if I can see the barest
> glimpse of something in my mirror, he's on me.  Driving it was great
> though, and I found the graphics a litte blocky (800x600) but really
> pretty awesome.

> Overall, my early impression is great, but a few mods would make it
> killer.

Larr

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by Larr » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:41:57

If you are into multiplayer, then it's no contest.  N4 by a country mile.

-Larry


chainbreake

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by chainbreake » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:40:16

All I can tell you is two days after I installed N4 . . . I uninstalled NH.

Jerry Morelock


Jason Mond

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by Jason Mond » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:20:18

You actually tried 42 AI :)  I can only run 13-15 AI in GPL, but tried
to muster 20 in N4.  I'll probably move to 14 or 16 AI to try and get
the FPS consistantly above 22ish.

I actually think NH does a great job of physics modeling, so practice
mode and short races without cautions are fun.

Jason
P3/550, V5-5500, 800x600 at 4xFSAA


> Well - to put it in other words - NH is not better than N4, but N4
> simply can't be run on a slower system..
> I have a PIII500 V3 3000, and in 640 resolution, allmost all graphics
> off or on lowest detail, I get a smashing 10-15 fps at the back of a
> full grid (4 cars drawn in front, 2 at the rear).
> With a crash in front of me, it even drops back to 4-5 fps.

--
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Don Burnett

So..... how does N4 compare to NH?

by Don Burnett » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:32:05

Imho, there is no comparison, N4 is the Nascar sim to have.

--
Don Burnette



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