rec.autos.simulators

> I've used the same process as you.  After more than 60 various
> combinations, from high latencies of .300 down to .000 I have settled on
> this setup.  Been using it for a week and find it the best for me so
> far.
> force_feedback_latency = 0.005
> force_feedback_damping = 80.0
> max_steering_torque = 220.0
> Profile settings:  Overall - 150
>                                 Spring- 140
>                              Damper- 140
>  Centering - Off

> After the kink at Kyalami I can feel the front end load up and then down
> the hill is a good place to feel the spikes.  The .005 latency stopped
> the spikes with this setup.

> BobM

> >I set my latency by trying to get rid of the high frequency
> oscillations,
> >which occur when you 'disturb' the wheel a little at high speed. I just
> set
> >damping to zero and changed my latency until these oscillations
> immediately
> >damp out. In that way I got a latency of 0.103 and it seems to feel
> good.
> >But I'd also like to know, if that is a correct way to set the latency
> and
> >if someone had invented other ways of doing it.
> > (Comments from the pro's, please...)
> >And, yes, the higher you set the latency the more 'bumps' and
> 'twitches' you
> >get,  especially near the center of the wheel when you do minor
> corrections
> >in straight line. I've noticed, that this becomes worse, if you set the
> >sensitivity of the wheel to 'high' in the profiler. So I run it at
> 'medium'.
> >Also higher damping (not too high...) does help.

> >Peter
> >Vienna, Austria

>I set my latency by trying to get rid of the high frequency
oscillations,
>which occur when you 'disturb' the wheel a little at high speed. I just
set
>damping to zero and changed my latency until these oscillations
immediately
>damp out. In that way I got a latency of 0.103 and it seems to feel
good.
>But I'd also like to know, if that is a correct way to set the latency
and
>if someone had invented other ways of doing it.
> (Comments from the pro's, please...)
>And, yes, the higher you set the latency the more 'bumps' and
'twitches' you
>get,  especially near the center of the wheel when you do minor
corrections
>in straight line. I've noticed, that this becomes worse, if you set the
>sensitivity of the wheel to 'high' in the profiler. So I run it at
'medium'.
>Also higher damping (not too high...) does help.

>Peter
>Vienna, Austria

>> What is the best way to set the latency in gpl for my logitec wheel?
I had
>> .030 but that was too low some one told me. I tried .175 but i get
bumps
>or
>> twitches when driving. Is that normal?

>> thanks

>Strange, that you can use such a low latency (like some other people).
For
>me, that just doesn't feel right (although it is much smoother).
>BTW, which sensitivity are you using (to set in the profiler)? I've
tried
>medium/high now and suddenly the high speed oscillations where back
again.
>I think I must investigate this further...

>Peter
>Vienna, Austria

>> I've used the same process as you.  After more than 60 various
>> combinations, from high latencies of .300 down to .000 I have settled
on
>> this setup.  Been using it for a week and find it the best for me so
>> far.
>> force_feedback_latency = 0.005
>> force_feedback_damping = 80.0
>> max_steering_torque = 220.0
>> Profile settings:  Overall - 150
>>                                 Spring- 140
>>                              Damper- 140
>>  Centering - Off

>> After the kink at Kyalami I can feel the front end load up and then
down
>> the hill is a good place to feel the spikes.  The .005 latency
stopped
>> the spikes with this setup.

>> BobM

>In the profiler I use med sensitivity and low dead zone.  I have the
>windows joystick deadzone set to 1.
>I don't think there is a "correct setting".  I kept trying to get rid of
>the spikes and still be able to feel the front end as much as possible.
>After so  many combinations I have settled on my present setup.

>BobM

>>Strange, that you can use such a low latency (like some other people).
>For
>>me, that just doesn't feel right (although it is much smoother).
>>BTW, which sensitivity are you using (to set in the profiler)? I've
>tried
>>medium/high now and suddenly the high speed oscillations where back
>again.
>>I think I must investigate this further...

>>Peter
>>Vienna, Austria

>>> I've used the same process as you.  After more than 60 various
>>> combinations, from high latencies of .300 down to .000 I have settled
>on
>>> this setup.  Been using it for a week and find it the best for me so
>>> far.
>>> force_feedback_latency = 0.005
>>> force_feedback_damping = 80.0
>>> max_steering_torque = 220.0
>>> Profile settings:  Overall - 150
>>>                                 Spring- 140
>>>                              Damper- 140
>>>  Centering - Off

>>> After the kink at Kyalami I can feel the front end load up and then
>down
>>> the hill is a good place to feel the spikes.  The .005 latency
>stopped
>>> the spikes with this setup.

>>> BobM

> In the profiler I use med sensitivity and low dead zone.  I have the
> windows joystick deadzone set to 1.
> I don't think there is a "correct setting".  I kept trying to get rid of
> the spikes and still be able to feel the front end as much as possible.
> After so  many combinations I have settled on my present setup.

> BobM

> >Strange, that you can use such a low latency (like some other people).
> For
> >me, that just doesn't feel right (although it is much smoother).
> >BTW, which sensitivity are you using (to set in the profiler)? I've
> tried
> >medium/high now and suddenly the high speed oscillations where back
> again.
> >I think I must investigate this further...

> >Peter
> >Vienna, Austria

> >> I've used the same process as you.  After more than 60 various
> >> combinations, from high latencies of .300 down to .000 I have settled
> on
> >> this setup.  Been using it for a week and find it the best for me so
> >> far.
> >> force_feedback_latency = 0.005
> >> force_feedback_damping = 80.0
> >> max_steering_torque = 220.0
> >> Profile settings:  Overall - 150
> >>                                 Spring- 140
> >>                              Damper- 140
> >>  Centering - Off

> >> After the kink at Kyalami I can feel the front end load up and then
> down
> >> the hill is a good place to feel the spikes.  The .005 latency
> stopped
> >> the spikes with this setup.

> >> BobM

> dinput.dll controls the amount of play(deadzone) at the center of your
> controller. The default is 5 which is usually fine for a joystick.  Most
> guys find that it is too much play for a wheel however.  I use
> http://home.att.net/~stickworks/ctfjv320.zip to set mine to 1.  You can
> also find DXTweak at
> http://www.wingmanteam.com/Latest_Software/Gadgets/gadgets.htm .  It
> will do the same thing.

> BobM

> >I followed all of the other settings in this thread, but I can't figure
> out
> >what you mean by "I have the windows joystick deadzone set to 1".

> >Thanks,

> >Gene